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Is there any proof that Trayvon wasn't an fing punk or an asshole? From what I read from his phone, he seemed to fit both of those terms.


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Kathi Belich also says in a tweet that "E6 is not taking notes now.. After taking notes the entire trial. Others are taking some notes."


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Kathi Belich also says in a tweet that "E6 is not taking notes now.. After taking notes the entire trial. Others are taking some notes."

Oooooh... very, very interesting... thanks! :86

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2:00 p.m.
De la Rionda says when you think about it you ask “who was more scared?”

He says Martin can’t go into the courtroom and say how he was feeling and that is because of the actions of the defendant.

He says there is no dispute he lived at Retreat at Twin Lakes, was in the neighborhood watch, upset that burglars got away, and was on his way to Target.

He says Zimmerman saw the victim and called the non-emergency line.

He says there was no crime committed in those actions.

He describes the age, weight and height of Zimmerman. He says Zimmerman was armed and had the right to do it.

He describes the age, weight and height of Martin. He says he was unarmed, but might consider the Skittles or tea. He says the defense might say he was armed with concrete.

He says repeats the expletive phrase Zimmerman is heard saying. He says it was said under his breath and that indicates ill-will. He says that indicates what he was thinking and it’s important.

He mentions the prior non-emergency calls submitted as evidence.

1:55 p.m.
“Those actions weren’t anything sinister,” De la Rionda says about the formation of a neighborhood watch.

He says in this particular case it led to the death of an innocent 17-year-old boy.

He says the defendant made the wrong assumption that Martin was up to no good.

De la Rionda says Martin was there legally, went the 7-Eleven store and bought Skittles and a drink.

He says Martin has $40.15 in his pockets.

He shows the photo button to the jury and says he was speaking to a girl in Miami, minding his own business.

He says the defendant decided he was up to no good.

De la Rionda says Martin planned to watch a basketball game with the son of his father’s fiancée.

“He was just doing a normal everyday thing,” De la Rionda says.

“He was wearing a hoodie, last I heard that’s not against the law,” he says.

He says Zimmerman presumed something that was not true.

He says in this case he followed him and made up that Martin was a criminal and went over the line.

De la Rionda says he wanted to make sure Martin didn’t get out of the neighborhood.

“He was going to be what he wanted to be; a police officer,” he says.

He reminds the jury that Serino said he would think Martin lived there if he saw him while driving by in his patrol car.

1:48 p.m.
He says he is dead because another man made assumptions. He says because his assumptions were wrong Trayvon Benjamin Martin no longer walks on this Earth.

De la Rionda points out Zimmerman at his seat.

He asks if Zimmerman tried to offer aid that the Sanford police officers did.

He says Zimmerman’s acts speak volumes of what occurred that night.

He says because of a recording, there were able to precisely determine when the gunshot was.

He says the events leading up to it occurred months before.

He asks them to remember the testimony of several people and the evidence heard from Zimmerman when he was being interviewed by Singleton.

A portion of the recorded interview is played.

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I'm still trying to find out the charges the jury will see. It is 2nd degree murder and manslaughter only? I missed a lot this morning.


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Second-Degree Murder
Manslaughter by act or procurement

(No Manslaughter by culpable negligence)

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mung wrote:
Is there any proof that Trayvon wasn't an fing punk or an asshole? From what I read from his phone, he seemed to fit both of those terms.

Very strongly agree -- unfortunately the judge wouldn't allow the jury to know these facts.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 2:06 pm 
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Rumpole wrote:
Bernie: "Some sort of WATERMELON or ice tea or whatever its called...."



WOW small point for mankind...... but a QUANTUM Leap for Bernie :91


Bernie - Rachael made some sort of sexual pervert reference and Trayvon made some sort of "cracker" reference.
Actually Bernie, Trayvon called George a "creepy asscracker" while Rachael suggested that George was a rapist. Does Bernie really think the jury forgets?


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liesel wrote:
Hi, seeing-eye! Was wondering where you were... glad you made it! I am almost certain you're correct about BDLR misquoting.

Thanks for validating my memory on this. Usually I don't remember correctly things that have happened, but what's even worse is when I remember things that never happened!


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chipbennett wrote:


Yes:

Second-Degree Murder
Manslaughter by act or procurement

(No Manslaughter by culpable negligence)


I got confused when they were talking about it on whether the culpable negligence was included. Are we sure it isn't still in?


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Obviously, Bernie is nervous.

Voice at high pitch - almost screeching at times.


He's a perfect example to use by the defense to show when he's excited his voice changed. Just like when GZ was screaming for help.

BDLR is in reasonable fear that he has lost this case.


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lack of evidence is proof!


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mung wrote:
Is there any proof that Trayvon wasn't an fing punk or an asshole? From what I read from his phone, he seemed to fit both of those terms.


That is a FACT ... but a fact denied to the jury

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chipbennett wrote:

I thought "procurement" in this case meant, "to cause to happen." In other words: something that Zimmerman caused to happen, by getting out of his car, following, and confronting (as opposed to a deliberate act, such as Zimmerman being the initial physical aggressor of the physical altercation that resulted in the use of deadly force).

Won't be the first time I've been wrong this afternoon... Will try to look it up on break. :)

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BDLR's closing argument is an amalgam of Traybot tweets. The Zimmerman Show won't come back for Season 2.


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chipbennett wrote:
Bernie's going for the Oscar here. The whispered words; the choked-back tears.

He's not getting my vote -- sounds staged to me, not credible.

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I took the word ass out of that because Bernie is an ass.


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Bernie just said George should have asked Trayvon if he needed to call the police ...for Trayvon's sake!


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