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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:09 pm 
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I wanna see Bernie's Medical records

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:11 pm 
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liesel wrote:
As a non-minority citizen, I am terrified it could happen to me or someone I love; being attacked and defending myself and then being arrested for it; being threatened, etc.

As a Florida taxpayer, I am outraged.

Flabbergasted? Well, not as much as terrified and outraged.


Floridians should get together and get rid of Corey and that asshole Governor you have. Corey seems to not be in the courtroom lately.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:14 pm 
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I don't think the state will get in his medications.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:16 pm 
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What a joy. I'm watching HLN and Vinnie is acting and looking deflated. lol


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:19 pm 
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I REALLY wanna see Rachel's medical records

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:24 pm 
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Bill Schaeffer is contradicting himself in answering a viewer question: have you ever seen the injuries Zimmerman sustained used to prosecute someone for aggravated battery?.

Schaeffer's answer: absolutely!

Hey, Bill: aggravated battery is a forcible felony under Florida statute. Under 760.012, deadly force is justified to prevent the commission of a forcible felony.

Case = closed.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:25 pm 
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murderbythebook wrote:

Floridians should get together and get rid of Corey and that asshole Governor you have. Corey seems to not be in the courtroom lately.

Rumpole doesn't really want us to discuss politics in the case discussion thread and I'm already in trouble for a gif that I interpreted as a cat making an explosive attack and he interpreted as cruelty.

Rumpole - The cat is almost always the hero in my eyes, so I admit my view could have been skewed. :86

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:25 pm 
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chipbennett wrote:

I believe the surname was Fulgate


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Thanks Chip.. Who dat?


So it's Folgate... wonder WHY Bernie wanted her before Smith?

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What a joy. I'm watching HLN and Vinnie is acting and looking deflated. lol

I hope it gets worse and worse for him and his race-baiting crew. It's tempting, but even that won't get me to give them a hit or a viewer, I so thoroughly disapprove of them.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:32 pm 
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murderbythebook wrote:

Floridians should get together and get rid of Corey and that asshole Governor you have. Corey seems to not be in the courtroom lately.

liesel wrote:
Rumpole doesn't really want us to discuss politics in the case discussion thread and I'm already in trouble for a gif that I interpreted as a cat making an explosive attack and he interpreted as cruelty.

Rumpole - The cat is almost always the hero in my eyes, so I admit my view could have been skewed. :86


Politics of course is part of THIS case.... so no problem.

I just don't want to descend into full-on Party Politics

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De la Rionda continues questioning. He resumes asking about Aug. 19, 2011.

She says she spoke to him about his history. De la Rionda hands her an exhibit he says is part of the medical records.

She reads the “history of present illness” section. She reads that there is “difficulty with falling asleep and exercising with MMA, but it has not helped.”

She says she learned that MMA meant Mixed Martial Arts.

De la Rionda asks her about a Sept. 23, 2011 treatment. He hands her the document.

She reads a notation that Zimmerman was involved in mixed martial arts three days per week.

De la Rionda hands her another document for a treatment on Feb. 27, 2012.

He asks her about the visit. She says the vitals would’ve been done, a brief history would’ve been taken, and she would’ve discussed the reason for his visit.

She reads the notes from the document, which say the patient was there for a return note for work, was in a fight and punched in the nose and had two lacerations on the head, and EMTs said his nose was broken.

She says when she talked with him, he said he his head was shoved into the ground, he went on to say he had a weapon and shot his attacker.

De la Rionda asks her about his nasal pain.

She says she asks certain questions which are an overview of systems.

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The State is spending a ton of time trying to disprove something (severity of sustained injury) that has no statutory bearing on the justifiable use of deadly force in self-defense.

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Medical Assistant: Zimmerman was officially obese at the time of the altercation.

State just established reasonable doubt that Zimmerman "hunted down" Martin.

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Medical Assistant: Zimmerman had two black eyes.

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If the lacerations are less than an inch, the trigger finger cannot flinch

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Medical Assistant: nose is likely broken. Determined clinically to be broken, based on nature of black eyes.

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Folgate says he denied having a headache, change in vision, slurred speech, dizziness, gait abnormality. She says he told her when he reflected on the night’s events he had nauseous feelings. She determined it was from a psychological factor.

She says he mentioned tenderness in a joint on the left side.

She says he admitted to nose pain, but didn’t have ringing in the ears.

She says he denied palpitations, chest pressure, and abdominal pain.

She noted he admitted to scalp lacerations as a concern.

She says he admitted to stress surrounding the events.

A physical exam would also be considered in her treatment, she says.

Folgate first describes it as general appearance. She describes the observations she took.

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She says sutures were not necessary for the lacerations. She describes one as 2mm and the other as much smaller.

She says she noted there was skin discoloration under the eyes, or black eyes.

Swelling and bruising noted around the nose, no septum deviation, and other observations, she lists.

She gave an anti-inflammatory for the “SI joint pain.”

She says his nose was likely broken, but there were no x-rays to confirm. She can’t say definitively one way or the other, but clinically, it appeared to be broken, she says.

Folgate says she recommended Zimmerman see an ears, nose and throat specialist to check his nose, but he said he wasn’t going to.

Folgate says he has been treated before for back pain related to constipation.

Folgate explains that a scalp laceration can bleed more than other parts of the body.

De la Rionda finishes questioning. O'Mara begins cross-examination.

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