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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:05 am 
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chipbennett wrote:
What on earth was Bernie doing asking Mark Osterman about double-taps and multiple shots to neutralize a threat? All that does is show a lack of depraved mind, since Zimmerman only shot once.

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I agree. I would have shot twice because that's how I was trained at the 5 yard line. Pull the gun and point, no time to aim, two quick shots.

The shot is claimed to have been fired as there was a struggle for the gun, certainly some form of forced contact, and the impact from that shot should have initiated a release by Trayvon going away from the gun. That may have been a factor for not shooting two shots ...which seems more like something the defense would point out than the prosecution.

Meanwhile, Bernie gets to play his favorite tape again!


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:06 am 
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Why weren't there any friends to put on the stand who recognize Trayvon's voice? No other relatives either. Weak!!


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She identifies the voice in the 911 call as Zimmerman.

She says while working on the political campaign they were loud and “whooping it up” and she knows how he sounds.

O’Mara finishes questioning.

De la Rionda cross examines.

He asks about the contribution amount of $2,500. She confirms. She says she doesn’t know the other amounts, but her husband handles them.

She acknowledges they have contributed to the defense account.

De la Rionda asks about the first time she heard it.

She says she didn’t hear it right away. When she realized what happened because of prior jury experience, she tried to not watch, listen or read about it.

She says she first heard it on TV.

De la Rionda asks if she ever heard Martin’s voice. No, she says.

She says she heard similar yelling from Zimmerman during the political campaign.

De la Rionda asks if based on that she thinks it is Zimmerman, “Definitely,” she says.

He asks if she hears continuous yells for help.

She says it is hard to tell because of the other person’s voice.

De la Rionda asks if she discusses the case with her husband.

She says she tries not to discuss it on purpose.

Benjamin says she doesn’t remember hearing any other recordings. She doesn’t remember hearing the non-emergency call Zimmerman made.

De la Rionda plays the call.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:07 am 
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flgirl543 wrote:
Doesn't Bernie realize every time he plays the NEN tape, we hear about the drugs and most normal people hear NO spite, ill will, hatred. I hear George saying please get officer over here.

"A lie told a thousand times becomes the truth" appears to be the state's motto for this trial, at least.

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Oh, lookie: Bernie asks a witness to speculate about Zimmerman's intent behind wording. O'Mara objects that the question is speculation. Nelson overrules. O'Mara asks to approach. Nelson denies.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:18 am 
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Bernie wants to keep playing the cussing parts. He thinks that proves GZ's depraved mind?

STFU Bernie. On second thought, keep going and show the jury what an ass you are.

Nelson, as usual, overruling the defense and sustaining the prosecution.


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Bernie keeps applying the phrases addressing plural as having a meaning that only applies to Trayvon... always with the "s" at the end of azzhole. Now he is rephrasing it to effining punk, single (adding black male to it).


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At the point I truthfully can't see how Bernie would not be viewed as a complete arrogant idiot to the jury


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Why... when referring to Bernie... do people not say "fucking punk attorney"

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:20 am 
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She describes the political campaign setting where she heard Zimmerman yelling.

O’Mara asks about the screams being continuous or segmented.

She says they were segmented.

O’Mara finishes.

De la Rionda re-cross examines.

He says he was speaking louder so she could hear. He asks if Zimmerman was heard speaking under his breath.

De la Rionda points out he had to play it a few times.

O’Mara redirects.

He asks if she was speaking on a call that was recording if she wanted to say something that couldn’t be heard.

She says she’d take it away from her head.

The jury says they don’t need a break.

The defense calls the next witness.

11:22 a.m.
Benjamin says she has encountered people that use that language in conversation.

She says her kids speak that way, in “cussing.”

“I think he was just reporting on what he saw,” she says.

De la Rionda asks about Zimmerman not saying the expletives after being asked about the person’s race.

O’Mara objects to speculation.

De la Rionda finishes questioning.

O’Mara redirects.

Benjamin says she didn’t hear Zimmerman speaking in an angry way.

She says she didn’t hear Zimmerman say the expletive the same way De la Rionda did.

She says it was more of a statement or comment.

Benjamin says she has a 30 and 33-year-old son.

O’Mara asks if she has heard them say the expletives.

She confirms.

She says it doesn’t always mean ill-will, anger or spite.

Benjamin says she closed her eyes to listen carefully to see if she could hear the possibility of running.

She describes Zimmerman’s use as more matter-of-fact and De la Rionda’s voice was louder and highlighting the words.

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Benjamin says she has heard parts of the call on the news.

She thinks she heard the part where he was trying to give an address.

She says it sounds windy.

De la Rionda asks her about the profanity.

She doesn’t remember hearing it.

“It sounds like maybe the environment changed,” she says.

She says his voice seems more matter-of-fact in the non-emergency call and he was outside.

De la Rionda plays the portion of the call with the profanities.

He plays it again for her.

She says the background noise sounds like the wind picked up or he is walking.

She says she thinks he was observing.

De la Rionda asks about the expletive referencing the person.

“I think it was a comment he was making,” Benjamin says.

She says she doesn’t think he was in an extremely excited state.

De la Rionda asks if she closed her eyes when she originally listened to the 911 call with the screams.

She says she was doing things around the house.

De la Rionda asks if Zimmerman was using the profanities during the campaign.

She says no.

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When MOM asks about the way Bernie says the words she would point out the when Mr De La Rionda says "fucking punks" he sounds like an angry, arrogant, bullying asshole....... which is exactly what he is

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LOL Take that Bernie!!!! The witness is criticizing you.


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Rumpole wrote:
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Why... when referring to Bernie... do people not say "fucking punk attorney"


1. They do.
2. Those that don't afraid of being charged w/2nd degree murder.

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kbp wrote:
Bernie keeps applying the phrases addressing plural as having a meaning that only applies to Trayvon... always with the "s" at the end of azzhole. Now he is rephrasing it to effining punk, single (adding black male to it).

Good point - was referring to group to which he believed TM™ belonged.

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