George's parents look good. I'm glad they are there.

Did anyone catch what just happened with the female crime victim pj? I just heard the last seconds with BDLR saying "sorry" repeatedly. TIA

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2:31 p.m.
De la Rionda asks if anyone thinks they live in a community that has no crime. No one answers.

He asks if anyone has taken steps to correct it.

E-54 says he assumes there is crime in the neighborhood.

K-95 says she put up a “No soliciting” sign in the neighborhood. She says she is not a member of the neighborhood watch.

E-73 says there was a sudden increase of crime in her neighborhood and went to a neighborhood watch meeting.

B-76 says teenagers vandalized signs and police took care of it. She said she spoke to other neighbors about it.

De la Rionda addresses B-35, who says he was helping his brother move last night.

De la Rionda asks if anyone feels like they have the right to take the law in their own hands.

He addresses I-5. “There may be occasions, but basically, I would say no,” I-5 says.

Juror G-63 says the government is authorized to address the law.

H-7 says his only concern is the process about a citizen’s arrest.

I-24 says she if someone broke into her house she would try to protect her family.

De la Rionda asks if everyone feels the law applies equally to everyone.

He asks if it matters if the neighborhood is gated or not. He asks if it matters where the person is from.

He addresses B-72.

Juror B-72 says the law applies to everyone and doesn’t discriminate.

“Should it matter what the person’s gender or race or ethnicity?” De la Rionda asks.

The group responds no.

De la Rionda asks if anyone has ever been a witness.

A juror says he testified as a part of a case in the juvenile system. He says he was treated fairly.

H-7 says he has given depositions before and the experience was not unpleasant.

H-39 says he has been deposed before on "the good guys side."

H-81 says he has been a witness a few times.

I-24 says she was a witness in a car accident. She had to verify who hit who before a judge.

Another juror says he was called as a witness in an Orange County criminal trial. He says it would not impact him in the case.

K-80 says she was a witness in a child custody case.

K-95 says she was in a federal case. She says it was not a good experience because of the way she was treated by the attorneys and the judge. It was not in Florida. She says she was told she "was at an economic disadvantage." She says she would not hold it against either side.

E-22 says she has been deposed. She said it never went to trial and would not impact her.

E-6 says she was involved in a custody trial. She says she was treated fairly.

E-40 says she was a witness in a car accident about 20 years ago. She says she was treated fairly.

2:13 p.m.
Juror 81 says a close friend was arrested in Pennsylvania and was treated unfairly during prosecution. He says he would not hold it against the state.

De la Rionda asks if anyone was the victim of a crime in a way that would impact their fairness serving on the jury.

Jurors B-76, B-7, B-86, E-40, E-73, E-22, K-80, K-95, G-81, H-7, H-35, H-81, I-33, I-44 raise their hands.

De la Rionda asks if it was a violent crime

A few jurors raise their hands.

De la Rionda tells them the law says they should set that experience aside. He asks if they think they can do that.

Juror E-73 raises her hand. “It’s always in my mind,” she says in response to De la Rionda.

De la Rionda asks about any time of crime to the household that they felt the police did not do a good job.

B-7 says someone broke into his home in Seminole County. He says the sheriff’s office didn’t investigate. He says he can agree to leave it outside the courtroom. He says he was a senior in high school and may have chased the burglars off.

B-86 says she was working at a fast food restaurant when she and coworkers were robbed. She says the officer scared her worse than the robber.

“We’re thinking the person came back,” she said, describing the officer pounding on the door. She says the suspect was eventually caught.

2:03 p.m.
Judge Nelson welcomes back the jurors. She asks them if anyone talked about, heard about, or researched the case. Prosecutor Bernie de la Rionda resumes questioning.

1:45 p.m.
The attorneys are in sidebar with the judge.

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I missed a bit.. tried to fit a night's sleep into lunch break

I see I missed at least one sidebar

DRINK

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2:42 p.m.
De la Rionda goes over the witness list and how each juror knows the names they recognized earlier.

He addresses Juror E-6. The court gives her the list she had earlier.

De la Rionda says she circled two names on the first page. She says she just recognized the names. She says she has gotten a referral to one witness, but hasn’t had contact with them. For the third name, she says she just recognized the name and it would not have an impact. A fourth name she circled, she says would not have an impact.

Juror I-33 says he just recognized the names he marked.

G-63 says he knows the first name as a celebrity. The name on the last page is a name he recognizes.

B-61 says she know the name she recognized on a personal basis, but hasn’t seen the person in years. “I don’t think it would impact as it would any other witness,” she says. She says she lost contact with that person.

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Bernie making SURE each Juror agrees to accept "opinion".. only from EXPERT witnesses....


He is NOT telling the WHOLE truth... all "experts" are not the same.... his ones are CRAP!!!

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3:07 p.m.
De la Rionda asks if the group can agree to evaluate witnesses based on what they hear in court.

“The law allows for certain witnesses to be treated a little differently in the sense of experts,” De la Rionda explains. He asks if an expert should be able to give an opinion.

He addresses multiple jurors to see if they agree.

Four jurors ask a question about the expert opinions. De la Rionda says the judge will also give instructions.

De la Rionda says they jurors will be exposed to photographs they have probably never seen in their life.

He asks if anyone has any law enforcement experience. No affirmative answers.

H-86 says she has two uncles and an aunt with experience.

De la Rionda asks about family with law enforcement experience.

K-95 says she used to work in retail watching for shoplifters. “Busted a lot of my sister’s friends,” she answers about how successful she was at it.

I-24 says she would interpret for shoplifters caught at a company she worked for.

Both say they could be fair.

K-80 says she has family that served in law enforcement. She says that wouldn’t interfere.

Another juror says he knows people in law enforcement that he sees a few times a year. He says he was interested in law enforcement when he was younger. It would not impact him.

B-7 says his estranged wife worked as a victim advocate. He says it was a while ago and it would not impact him.

B-86 says she used to do transcription for a private investigator. She says it would not impact her.

E-6 says a family friend worked as a detective.

B-12 has family in law enforcement. She says her dad used to tell her funny stories. She says she wouldn’t favor one side over the other.

H-69 says a cousin works for homeland security. “Sounds very exciting, but not for me,” she says.

Another juror says she knows people in homeland security and security.

K-80 says neighbors work in law enforcement. She says she doesn’t discuss the law with them

E-22 says a close friend worked in law enforcement.

G-66 says she has family in Chicago in law enforcement.

H-7 says friends are in law enforcement.

Another juror says she has an uncle in law enforcement

I-24 has a niece-in-law in law enforcement.

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3:15 p.m.
De la Rionda asks if anyone has not had a dispute with another person.

One juror says he stays away from a person he has fought with.

E-6 says she was involved in a domestic violence case, but it would not impact

B-7 says with a chuckle he got in a fight in middle school.

De la Rionda asks if anyone has had a dispute that they have worked out.

B-61 says yes, and they were able to resolve it by talking about it.

De la Rionda asks if anyone has medical experience.

G-47 says he is a registered EMT. It would not have an impact

K-95 says she was a CNA “many years ago.”

Another juror says she is a certified safety instructor.

E-28 says she has medical experience. H-86 says she is a registered nurse.

De la Rionda asks if anyone besides B-72, known for arm wrestling, is in to fitness and working out.

A few mention weight lifting. H-29 says he has boxed before in tournaments.

He addresses G-63. The juror says he does weight lifting.

H-18 says he does martial arts. He has a green belt and does kickboxing.

B-86 says she did Tae Kwando with her kids.

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How long is Bernie going to be doing this? How about the defense?

The fourth Doctor was my first, but I really appreciate the others. Big Jon Pertwee fan as well. Being American we didnt get to see much of the first or second Doctor, but I have been watching them over the years on video and the lost episodes from the Target novels. Good to see Doctor Who fans here.

Bernie asking if people know about Neighbourhood watch

Asking about people knowledgeable about DNA or cell phones. H e wont be wanting ANYBODY who knows anything... he needs blank slates to spread BS on.

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This is going on WAY too long. It will be next week before they get though all these. SIT DOWN BERNIE!

(P.S. Cute doggie as your avatar.)

I HOPE Bernie is asking questions with answers of use to both sides... so no need for MOM to repeat. However, Bernie is a bit naughty in weaving his likely agenda into it... so.....I guess MOM needs a chance to do same....


Speak of the devil... MOM just interrupted Bernie and asked for a sidebar


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I totally agree. Usually the defense would want a jury full of stupid people, but in this rare case smart people are preferred because they will see though the BS that has been promulgated by the Scheme Team and is still being spread by the likes of HLN.

Here is a good drinking game: anytime someone says on HLN Zimmerman pursued Trayvon, take a drink. You will be blotto before the first commercial break. Add a chaser if they say that 911 ordered him not to follow.

This case has several "Reversals" where State behaving like devious defence of a GUILTY perp... trying to keep evidence out.... with a guilty perp much of the evidence is "prejudicial"

Drinking game based on HLN saying pursued.. can be adapted to the actual proceedings in court... Bernie has said it in the past... and I am sure will repeat it many times.

DRINK for a sidebar is traditional (now)

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3:27 p.m.
De la Rionda continues his questioning.

3:25 p.m.
“Do we all agree that people dress differently?” The group responds in the affirmative.

De la Rionda asks if anyone makes assumptions based on what people are wearing.

He asks if the different races of Martin and Zimmerman should matter.

O’Mara asks to approach for a sidebar.

3:23 p.m.
De la Rionda asks if anyone has training in phonetics or linguistics. No one responds.

A few jurors mention they learned sign language.

De la Rionda asks if anyone lives in a gated community.

G-63 says he lived in a community with a security guard.

De la Rionda asks if anyone lives in a neighborhood watch community.

One juror says he sees signs. B-35, E-73 says their neighborhood has one.

E-22 says she’s seen a sign. K-80 says her husband is a “block captain,” but he doesn’t patrol the neighborhood.

G-14 says they have a watch, but she’s not involved.

G-63 says he used to live in a community with a watch, but wasn’t involved.

De la Rionda asks if everyone considers themselves an expert on DNA. No affirmative answers.

De la Rionda asks if everyone has a cell phone and if they consider themselves an expert.

Juror I-44 says he has a working knowledge.

A few others respond similarly.

G-47 says he considers himself “pretty tech savvy.”

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  ......and Rumpole frowns on that

OT Rumpole


I started a thread in TV department about likelihood of an episode being filmed in NZ. That could easily deteriorate into Dr Who stuff generally

Doctor Who edging closer to NZ
viewtopic.php?f=27&t=562

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