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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:15 pm 
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Rumpole wrote:

Of course not.

For a kick off... at the moment Good is State witness... Bernie had a bit of a go at impeaching his own witness ... AGAIN!

But MOM... was doing the opposite... explaining that changes from past statements were understandable, clarifications and supplemental info...


:fish STOP taking NastyJack seriously... she is Dim and challenged when it comes to the truth AND English comprehension!!


I think she and Crump are losing credibility by the day. They want to go back to the day when they could go before a camera and lie because the evidence wasn't released. Reality is hitting them right in the face.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:15 pm 
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Nasty Jack needs to remember the defense has NOT presented a single witness as of yet ... the persecutions witnesses just seem to be pro defense because the facts are this is a BS charge


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realitycheck wrote:
Nasty Jack needs to remember the defense has NOT presented a single witness as of yet ... the persecutions witnesses just seem to be pro defense because the facts are this is a BS charge


They don't need to, the prosecution is presenting all of the witnesses the defense needs.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:20 pm 
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I should have confirmed I didn't believe it, but just wanted confirmation in case I missed it. She can't be this this stupid? I'll answer my own question...yes she is, as well as a liar!


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Why is O'Mara not asking about the goose-eggs/swelling on the back/side of the head?


Also, didn't one of the officers, in their police report, write he over heard GZ tell EMTs he was yelling for help and no one came?

Has that been brought out?


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:22 pm 
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Video arrival at Police Station.. sure was a GOOD impersonation of somebody under arrest..... so BGI got it wrong!!

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:24 pm 
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murderbythebook wrote:
Also, didn't one of the officers, in their police report, write he over heard GZ tell EMTs he was yelling for help and no one came?

Has that been brought out?


Tim Smith, the officer who overheard that statement is on the stand right now, and O'Mara is just starting cross-ex.

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flgirl543 wrote:
I should have confirmed I didn't believe it, but just wanted confirmation in case I missed it. She can't be this this stupid? I'll answer my own question...yes she is, as well as a liar!

There are/were a lot of guests that may not know your posts as well as many of us. I took your question as being along the lines of "fill me in on what I missed so I'll know what degree of falseness was tweeted this time."

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:28 pm 
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chipbennett wrote:
Tim Smith, the officer who overheard that statement is on the stand right now, and O'Mara is just starting cross-ex.


Thanks. I suppose Bernie will yell hearsay.


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chipbennett wrote:
Tim Smith, the officer who overheard that statement is on the stand right now, and O'Mara is just starting cross-ex.
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Thanks. I suppose Bernie will yell hearsay.


Nelson already ruled the statement admissible as res gestae.

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murderbythebook wrote:

Also, didn't one of the officers, in their police report, write he over heard GZ tell EMTs he was yelling for help and no one came?

Has that been brought out?

1. Yes, IIRC. 2. Not yet, but MOM mentioned the name of the EMT that I believe heard it.

Also, remember Smith has a res gestate statement from GZ that will be coming up soon; again, IIRC.

All of my posts should be read with the understanding that I know less about this case than most here. I have not read all discovery, studied scene, etc.

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O'Mara brilliant yet again on cross-ex. Got Ofc. Tim Smith to agree that slight movement of arms extended upward was sufficient to see previously concealed gun. Obviously, establishes reasonable doubt that Martin inadvertently discovered Zimmerman's gun during the fight.

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Is anyone else FLABBERGASTEd that this case came to trial? For MURDER 2?

Sorry for the shouting - this is just such a mockery of justice and the court system. What a waste.

The pros had no case whatsoever.

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flgirl543 wrote:
If Trayvon had continued to beat on George until he went into a coma and the police arrived on the scene, what would have happened?

Police to TM: What happened?

Trayvon: the creepy ass cracker pervert asked me a question. In my "culture" a "beat down" is normal...


This has always been the question. When is enough enough? There is never a definitive answer and there are many crime victims who regret waiting too long. Mr. Zimmerman's action completely dovetail with someone who was acting under duress.

I would imagine Mr. O'Mara will have a medical person come on and testify to the medical symptoms of someone who has their nose hit. This is a completely debilitating action, which is why women are told to push up on the attacker's nose to disable them.


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CinnamonToast wrote:
Is anyone else FLABBERGASTEd that this case came to trial? For MURDER 2?

Sorry for the shouting - this is just such a mockery of justice and the court system. What a waste.

The pros had no case whatsoever.


I know I am. I don't think I have ever seen a case that is so weak.

I think what happened that night was tragic, but every death doesn't mean a crime was committed.


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Another great defense witness.

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3:36 p.m.
O’Mara demonstrates the way Zimmerman lifted his arm to show the officer his gun.

Smith confirms he doesn’t believe the jacket covered the gun by more than a few inches.

O’Mara points out that it didn’t take much movement to display the gun in that fashion with the length of his jacket.

O’Mara goes over the process for handcuffing Zimmerman.

Smith says Zimmerman did not resist to being handcuffed.

O’Mara asks if Zimmerman seemed angry, frustrated, or with ill-will. Smith says no.

Smith says he saw the injuries to the back of Zimmerman’s head.

Zimmerman seemed calm, Smith says.

3:30 p.m.
Smith says he wanted to be a cop since he was little. O’Mara asks him about the “protect and serve” phrase. Smith says he enjoys his job, but O’Mara asks about a “shots fired” call.

Smith says you tend to wait a bit more for more information when it is a shots fired call.

O’Mara mentions him shining a light down the alley way.

Smith says his gun has a flashlight on it, but he used a standard flashlight.

He says he came upon the scene with his flashlight out, but not his gun.

O’Mara asks Smith about the proximity of Martin’s body.

Smith says Zimmerman was standing on the sidewalk. He’s not 100 percent certain about anyone else being present.

Most of Smith’s responses are “yes, sir.”

3:24 p.m.
The footage shows Smith’s patrol car pull in, Zimmerman get out, officers escort him into the station and walking through it.

Smith says he went to a viewing room with one-way glass. He says he didn’t see Zimmerman do anything to cause concern for his health.

Smith says he can’t make out what the investigator said with Zimmerman while in the viewing room.

Guy finishes questioning. O’Mara begins cross-examination.

3:19 p.m.
Guy resumes questioning by playing surveillance footage from the police station.

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