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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 11:19 am 
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Well, Londo, they haven't entered limpy et al "work" yet... :lol

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 11:20 am 
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11:15 a.m.
Root explains his billing fees.

This is his first time testifying before a jury as an expert in a criminal case, he says.

He has never been involved in a police shooting.

Guy asks about Zimmerman describing Martin as having something in his hands.

Root says he watched the walk-through Zimmerman did.

He says Zimmerman’s statements to him only account for a small portion of his considerations.

He says everyone’s concept of time is different.

Guy asks if Root knows what time Martin’s phone call ended.

Root says he is not sure if he saw them. He didn’t see the weight in the value of the cell phone records and evaluating the use of force event.

Root says the timeline creates a lot of questions and there were a lot of things that didn’t line up from Jeantel.

11:05 a.m.
O’Mara finishes questioning.

Guy begins cross examination.

Guy asks if Root heard Zimmerman’s non-emergency call and the expletives said in it.

“I think people like to give a little too much weight,” Root says. He says Zimmerman was clearly frustrated from previous calls when subjects got away.

Guy asks if the target of his frustration was Trayvon Martin.

Root says it was a comment and doesn’t see that variable showing ill-will.

Guy asks if Zimmerman ever swore during a conversation with Root.

Root says he was not called an expletive.

Guy asks if an irresponsible person with a firearm can be dangerous.

Root agrees.

Guy asks him to tell the jury when he started his consulting company.

Root says he started consulting in 2011 and in 2013 he stared Dennis Root and Associates.

Guy asks if he thinks the media coverage would be good for his business.

Root says he is dedicated to the truth. He approached O’Mara because he knew the state would have access to someone like him.

10:58 a.m.

Root says any firearm is a good selection for someone that went through training to carry a gun for self-defense.

He says the gun Zimmerman would be a safe gun to carry because the most important safety of anyone carrying it is the person holding it.

The downside of guns with an external safety is the brain will not remember to flip the safety under stress.

O’Mara asks about the internal holster.

Root says the idea behind the permit is to keep the weapon concealed and it’s a common type of holster.

O’Mara asks about having a round in the chamber.

Root says having a round in the chamber means it can be fired immediately.

“Carrying a magazine full and one in the chamber is the best way to carry a firearm,” Root says.

He says he trains people to load the chamber and make sure the magazine is fully loaded.

O’Mara asks about the hollow point bullets and if they are appropriate for self-defense.

Root says a bullet is designed to widen out and stop inside the soft tissues and a hollow point will be less likely to “over penetrate.”

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 11:27 am 
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So, the prosecution keeps bringing up the flashlight. There is no evidence that George used it on Trayvon and no evidence that Trayvon was hit with anything but a bullet. Now since we know the flashlight has been described as an impact weapon and George said he though that he was hit with something, is the state trying to prove that Trayvon got his hands on George's flashlight and hit George with it? I sure would bring that up on redirect.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 11:30 am 
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One can only hope that the fine citizens of Florida will see what a huge waste of taxpayers money this case has been and the fact it never should have been brought in the first place. Then knowing this ensure that this ends Corey's career as well as sees the political demise of Scott/Bondi.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 11:30 am 
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It seemed to me a big enough gap between his leg to reach the gun.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 11:31 am 
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Clearly the State has retained consultants... LIMPapa and Trent...


The have their verry own "Cabbage Patch" Mannequin :lol


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 11:31 am 
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The state has done a great job of pointing out all the injuries George suffered by working to show the witness is not 110% sure of exactly how each individual injury came about. Brilliant!


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 11:32 am 
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I'm so glad he brought up that it was a dynamic event with people moving. The State keeps acting like the only one moving was GZ.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 11:34 am 
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West looks pissed today. Has he been tied to his chair to cool down?

If that mannequin is foam, my puppy would love it to tear apart.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 11:36 am 
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Did Guy just help the defense? He pointed out that the shot is consistent with TM leaning over.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 11:37 am 
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SheStone wrote:
Did Guy just help the defense?

Yes, yet again he did.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 11:37 am 
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mung wrote:
So, the prosecution keeps bringing up the flashlight. There is no evidence that George used it on Trayvon and no evidence that Trayvon was hit with anything but a bullet. Now since we know the flashlight has been described as an impact weapon and George said he though that he was hit with something, is the state trying to prove that Trayvon got his hands on George's flashlight and hit George with it? I sure would bring that up on redirect.

Possible theories absent direct evidence...


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 11:39 am 
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SheStone wrote:
Did Guy just help the defense? He pointed out that the shot is consistent with TM leaning over.


Sounded like it to me. Everything fits George's statement. Now we have to have Trayvon and George moving in sync, to get the 90 degree angle.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 11:40 am 
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mung wrote:
So, the prosecution keeps bringing up the flashlight. There is no evidence that George used it on Trayvon and no evidence that Trayvon was hit with anything but a bullet. Now since we know the flashlight has been described as an impact weapon and George said he though that he was hit with something, is the state trying to prove that Trayvon got his hands on George's flashlight and hit George with it? I sure would bring that up on redirect.

Good point!

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We're not absolutely certain if Trayvon was leaning further forward to backward when the shot was fired. Are they searching for retreat here, that Trayvon was thinking of giving up according to MMA fight rules?

disengaging... de-escalation!


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11:36 a.m.
Guy shows person-shaped figured and demonstrates on the ground a mounted position.

Guy asks where the gun would be on the mannequin if someone was in that position.

Root says Zimmerman indicated he slid down and his jacket came up exposing his firearm.

Root says a dynamic event requires taking into account the movements of both people.

Guy asks about the gun angle at the time the shot was fired.

Guy demonstrates the mounted position again and how the defendant could have raised his gun and fired at 90 degrees.

11:26 a.m.
Root says it would’ve been his failure to ask which direction Martin approached him from, but he got the impression he was approached from the front.

He says the imperial part of the event is how it began.

Guy asks if Root asked Zimmerman about losing personal property.

Root says he doesn’t remember asking it.

Guy asks if he asked Zimmerman if he lost his flashlight.

Root says no. He confirms it could be used as an impact weapon.

Guy asks about Zimmerman saying his head was slammed into the concrete.

Guy asks about Zimmerman’s statements about Martin being over him.

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