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PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 12:21 pm 
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So let me get this straight: every time Don West asks to approach the bench, Nelson denies the request. But all BDLR has to do is say, "I don't want to make a speaking objection", and Nelson instructs counsel to approach the bench?

Nope: no bias.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 12:23 pm 
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12:20 p.m.
She says she thinks the other man was close behind Martin.

She says the man was close to Martin.

She says Martin would’ve told her he would call her back if she was going to approach the man.

She says she thought there might be an argument, but not a fight.

West asks her if she knew Martin would confront the man and uses the racial slur term.

De la Rionda objects to the questioning as argumentative.

West asks her about the hearing the bump.

West asks if she said it could’ve been Martin “smashing George Zimmerman in the face.”

She says she didn’t say that. “You didn’t get that from me,” she says.

West asks her about attempting to reach back to Martin.

She says she thought his father was around.

West asks her about knowing there was going to be a fight.

He asks if Martin was getting ready to “sucker-punch” someone he would say he would call her back.

She says he would not keep her on the phone if he was about to have a fight.

12:13 p.m.
Jeantel says Martin sounded tired after running.

West questions her further about Martin running and his voice sounding lower.

West asks her about Martin saying the question, “Why you following me?”

De la Rionda objects to West saying Martin confronted the man.

“That’s real retarded, sir,” Jeantel says in response to West suggesting Martin was going to hit the man without her knowing about it.

West questions her further about the comment “get off.”

He asks her why she didn’t tell anyone or come forward to the police because she thought it was just a fight.

She answers, “Yes sir.”

He suggests that Martin started the fight and she knew it.

De la Rionda objects to the questioning.

West asks about Martin telling Jeantel he saw the man again.

He asks if she considered his tone low because he was out of breath.

She says she couldn’t hear wind, so she knows Martin was walking.

West asks, “As opposed to hiding?”

She says yes.

West tries to ask about Martin approaching the man and asking "Why you following me?" but De la Rionda objects.

12:02 p.m.
West asks her to describe how wet grass sounds.

She pauses. She says it sounds wet

West asks her what it was she heard that made her think it was wet grass.

She says it sounded like people rolling in the grass.

She says the she heard somebody rolling through the headset. She says it had to be on top of Martin because that was where it headset would be.

West asks if she is saying the sound of wet grass is believed to be people rolling around on the ground and what it is based on.

She says she doesn’t know how to describe it.

West suggests that something like fabric or wind, or 1,000 other things could have made the sound.

He asks her if she knows what “get off” meant. He adds that she doesn’t know what it meant because she couldn’t see anything.

She answers, “No sir.”

West asks her about being in her house and fixing her hair.

He asks her at what point she paid particular attention. She says when she called back.

She says she wasn’t still working on her hair. She says she was using a bluetooth. She says she was in the bathroom and put an iron down when she called Martin back.

11:55 a.m.
West asks about her saying she could hear a little because the headset might’ve fallen.

She agrees that the headset was not in the usual position.

West asks about her saying she could hear “a little like ‘get off, get off.’”

She says she couldn’t hear that well and she was yelling Martin’s name, but it sounded like him.

“That’s how I speak, you cannot hear me that well,” she says.

She says the state attorney had trouble hearing her, calls him “bald-headed” and says he is next to West.

She says she could hear a “wet grass sound” and she was saying Martin’s name.

West plays the portion of the interview again to clarify her answer they she said heard something hitting somebody.

11:48 a.m.
West plays the recording of the interview for the court.

11:44 a.m.
Judge Nelson asks for a transcript. She asks for the jury to be brought back in.

11:38 a.m.
Jeantel returns to the witness stand.

11:36 a.m.
Jeantel leaves the witness stand and exits the courtroom with a deputy.

11:33 a.m.
De la Rionda asks that the rest of the interview be played because she clears up her answer.

West tells the court he has a theory De la Rionda lead her to say she could hear Martin saying “get off.”

Judge Nelson asks for West’s question for Jeantel.

She says she said she “could hear” Martin.

West asks to submit the interview audio as evidence.

De la Rionda objects because Jeantel already said what her answer was.

They enter a sidebar.

11:28 a.m.
Judge Nelson asks the jury to leave while they play a portion of the interview.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 12:24 pm 
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She opened the door to the fight and Nelson won't let West in.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 12:27 pm 
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It's looks like Traydad's & Traymom have been texting thoughout this trial. I wish somebody would get a picture.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 12:30 pm 
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flgirl543 wrote:
She opened the door to the fight and Nelson won't let West in.

Yes - no question whatsoever. Yet another issue for appeal, as if they need another. We need to shorten that to an acronym it happens so much. Can we agree on YAIFAAITNA? (kidding)

Seriously though, keeping this out after state's witness opened the door could affect the verdict. If the jurors knew he had a history of fighting within the last 3 weeks to the degree that #8 knew how he would handle the call with her, it's relevant, material, and I believe reversible error. But what do I know?

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 12:30 pm 
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Don't you love how the transcribers always write her words incorrectly? lol

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 12:34 pm 
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Would it be justifiable homicide if the defense wacked Nelson?


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 12:37 pm 
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Why would the Defense need to have a statement transcribed in order to impeach a witness over that statement, if the statement in question is recorded in State's evidence?

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 12:38 pm 
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You know... the defense can recall #8 in their case...

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chipbennett wrote:
Why would the Defense need to have a statement transcribed in order to impeach a witness over that statement, if the statement in question is recorded in State's evidence?

Transcript is to give judge preview of desired tape section.

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This is nuts "you want that too" is there. It does not matter what either transcript has.. that is WHY it makes sense to play the tape... this is a farcical waste of time

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chipbennett wrote:
Why would the Defense need to have a statement transcribed in order to impeach a witness over that statement, if the statement in question is recorded in State's evidence?
liesel wrote:
Transcript is to give judge preview of desired tape section.


Nelson already has intimate knowledge of the evidence in this case, as she has asserted many times in the run-up to trial.

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FTR - As we all know, down is up, up is down, left is right, right is left, sideways is straight, etc. etc. in this case so it's impossible to use common sense and experience to predict or interpret anything with any degree of reliability.

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12:38 p.m.
West tells the judge the transcriptionist “seemingly” couldn’t hear Jeantel’s response.

Judge Nelson asks for a copy of the other transcript.

She says she doesn’t see the language.

She asks the attorneys to approach for a sidebar.

12:33 p.m.
West asks her about the interview with De la Rionda and questions about the man getting out of the car.

She says she doesn’t remember the questions.

West refers to a transcript and she asks to see it.

He shows her a portion of the transcript asking about her response “You want that too?” to a question from De la Rionda about the man getting out of the car.

West says he’d like to play the interview recording.

Judge Nelson asks West about why he wants to play it.

He says it’s so the jury can hear the response she denied saying.

Judge Nelson points out that Jeantel mentioned that it was his notes.

The judge looks for the portion in the transcript.

Judge Nelson says West should play both.

12:24 p.m.

West resumes questioning. He asks if she had any concern about what she heard because it was just a fight.

She says she did.

12:21 p.m.
De la Rionda objects to West’s question if Martin has ever said he was going to fight before.

He asks to approach. They enter a sidebar.

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chipbennett wrote:

Nelson already has intimate knowledge of the evidence in this case, as she has asserted many times in the run-up to trial.

She used to claim no knowledge... lol

Even so, one can't expect total recall of every garbled passage of every #8 recording.

P.S. - See FTR post re: up is down, etc. :98

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chipbennett wrote:
Why would the Defense need to have a statement transcribed in order to impeach a witness over that statement, if the statement in question is recorded in State's evidence?

Had the transcripts been entered into evidence? That seems to be the deciding factor.

ps: thanks for pointing out details!


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 12:46 pm 
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kbp wrote:
Had the transcripts been entered into evidence? That seems to be the deciding factor.

ps: thanks for pointing out details!

Echoing kbp and adding thanks to all for details in posts. Really helps others (like me) get caught up and understand what's being discussed. :blow

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