They covered her phone records... I think?

No mention of call from toilet (that I recall)

I do not know about "phone people" I never owned a cell phone... but I believe ppl do use them as lights, play silly games etc.

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I see Nel needs early ciggie break.

I have ceased caring about any "points" the Nel might score.

I revert to earlier comments... all this nit-picking detail does NOT undermine OP's version significantly. It MIGHT raise the odd doubt... but Nel needs to do far more that that to discredit it.

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Nel finally puts his case... it's CRAP

Only good thing about it is that it is short!!


Defeated by his own witnesses, the time line, the bangs...... what a pathetic waste of time!!

Please Judge... don’t let these bozos go on vacation. Make them stay and finish this travesty.

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Based on shonky medical opinion discredited the world over Nel proposes a meal at 2AM... which means an argument at 2:00 AM????

That is his case????

Sounds of woman at 2 am is only ear witness... and Baba says no sounds at 2:20.

IF there was womans voice it was NOT necessarily from OP's house even... this is nonsense.

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What? No "Gay porn" at 6:30? No chasing around the house on his stumps? No smashing bedroom door? No air rifle shot? No smashing of downstairs window? No extra shots fired out window... etc etc etc


The WILL be disappointed at the True Gossip Forums.

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The prosecutor says he believes the court will make the following findings:

• That Reeva ate within two hours of Pistorius having shot and killed her
  
• That while Reeva was awake and eating, there was argument which was heard by neighbour Van der Merwe
  
• Witnesses Johnson, Burger and Stipps heard Reeva's "blood curdling" screams when she escaped from Pistorius
  
• Pistorius fired four shots through the door knowing it was her
  
• Pistorius armed himself with the sole purpose of shooting Reeva

The athlete denies all of these.

Nel finishes by saying Pistorius was overcome with emotion after the shooting, but only because he intended to kill her.

Nel says he has no further questions.

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I just had a post "vanish" elsewhere


Here it is:


The long awaited State version was a real fizzer

It did not make sense from the outset just based on evidence the State's own witnesses testified to

Didn't make sense and so I gues it's not true... Nel's Rule

At least it was short


Heavens what happened to all the chasing around the house, bashing bedroom door, firing air rifle, extra shots fired out the window (and casings hidden) Holes in windows.... not even mention of the "Gay porn" at 6:30 leading to murder 9 hours later

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I have been amazed that Roux did not cross examine for longer. OP finished now.

so bring on witnesses!

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Why bother?

The State have no case... their version is discredited by their own witnesses and times. OP's version has to be accepted... certainly not disproved beyond reasonable doubt.

Dopey point from photos which everybody knows are suspect... and Nel asking about shooting 6 times does not put the OP version in doubt at all.

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ALL that Nastiness from Nel was for NOTHING.... what a Jerk

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For good or bad, the State's case is over and the State will be struggling with a murder charge now. I think it will be a lesser verdict. I.e that OP is guilty of Culpable Homicide, the State have definitely put a doubt in the minds of those who, in my opinion, already found him guilty of murder in their minds. I think the judge is halfway already, rreachingher conclusions.

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Someone reminded me of this poem. Our Dad used to read it to us, when little.

"If" ~ by Rudyard Kipling

http://www.poetryfoundation.org/poem/175772

Two of the most damming pieces of evidence against Oscar are that the toilet door was locked and he didn’t hear Reeva scream when he shot her.

It was after hearing in court about a previous experience that Reeva had, where she had to lock herself in a room during a robbery, and was so traumatised by the event she could not speak to anyone for several days, that it occurred to me there could be a plausible explanation for these two facts.

Reeva gets out of bed to go to the loo; Oscar who is asleep gets disturbed by this but doesn’t wake sufficiently to know what woke him, but then he hears a window sliding open and banging against the stop.

Thinking intruders are climbing into the bathroom he gets his gun, whispers to Reeva to call the police, and goes quietly down the passage to face them.

As he approaches the bathroom he says he starts screaming “get out of my house, Reeva call the police”.

Reeva who is in the toilet, on hearing Oscar shouting and not knowing where the “intruders” are remains silent and closes the toilet door, Oscar hearing this sound is now certain there are “intruders”.

Reeva locks the toilet door and would be standing in front of it as she does so; Oscar who is now in the bathroom hears this sound and thinking that the door is being opened by the intruders fires four shots in quick succession, the gunfire noise in a small room with tiled walls and floor would be so loud as to cause temporary deafness and prevent him from hearing Reeva’s screams (as heard by neighbours) and even if he heard something like a faint scream, why would he think it was Reeva and not the intruder screaming.

I am not saying this is what happened but it could explain those damming facts and is consistent with his evidence.
I JUST READ THIS SOMEWHERE. DIDN'T WRITE IT. JONI

A workman was working on my home with a second story ladder leaning against my house. When he was finished for the day, he started to walk away, leaving the ladder where it was. I said "Please take it away for the night! What a great way for robbers to enter my house via the second floor. Makes it SO EASY for them!! Please take it."
HOW DUMB IS THAT??

He did. Brought it back the next day.

There was a ladder left there by workmen at Oscar's house? Good Lord!!!

Ah, Joni... there was no burglar. OP having ladders did not turn out to be a problem

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As I woke this morning a thought occurred to me, in regard that pathetic State case outline. Nel has just pulled this pathetic scrap of a "Version" out of his ASS!!

IF Nel is contending that this Mythical Meal (Last Supper) at 2:00AM which was an occasion for an argument then shooting.

WHERE are the damned dishes?

Did the Cops find dirty plates, bowls cutlery in the bedrooms? Fast food cartons? Disposable plates etc? Food scraps spread around perhaps? Were the spots on the duvet tested for Gravy? lol
In turn was the kitchen searched for same signs of a recent meal? Particularly food spilled or thrown around during an argument?

Nel's case does not make sense, and so is not true (Nel's Rule)

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Right. WHERE IS the evidence?

I have never seen such a dull, slow, plodding lawyer in all my life! I know lawyers go over and over things trying to catch the defendant in a small change... but THIS?? He can spend an hour on a curtain.

The ladder: I was really only pointing out what a dangerous practice that is, for anyone. Allowing a workman to leave his ladders overnight, and UP, highly visible leaning against the building? Wow.
BUT now that I think about it, maybe that was another factor adding to Oscar's fear. Knowing the workmen left a ladder leaning up against his home overnight? Not good.
ALL SYSTEMS GO!!!! Standing invitation.

You can use conjecture to formulate a hypothesis... but then you have to PROVE it beyond reasonable doubt.

Circumstantial evidence is OK provided there are enough "blocks" of facts.

This meal is just pure unsubstantiated supposition.

It was NOT a sandwich as I see suggested. State's own expert says it was some sort of vegetable meal. There had to be dishes etc. None were found.
And if the implication is that this was more than a "meal" it was an occasion for a violent argument that escalated into murder... I think food scraps, broken plates WOULD be circumstantial evidence to support that. The fact that such evidence was not found is circumstantial evidence that it never happened.

It really is a pathetic excuse for a case. Especially since there is testimony of just a single voice at 2:00 AM... and no sign of a disturbance at 3:20?

The "Screams" were all after the GUNSHOTS heard by 3 closest STATE witnesses, and so it is at the very least IN DOUBT that the screams were Reeva since they came at a time after she was dead.

The State's entire case is too tiny and scrappy to refute and replace OP's detailed version.


As an Aside:
I think it is pathetic for Nel to be requesting a 2 week adjournment. If time was of an essence he has known all along and could have upped his game, speeded up a bit..... NOT taken the extra day and a half tacked on to an existing long weekend.

OP (guilty or innocent) is entitled to have this torture of a trial completed ASAP. As are all the other interested parties... Reeva's family etc.
I do hope the Judge simply denies this request and tells BOTH sides to "pull finger"

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This was on a support blog for Oscar.

"Saw you in court on day 23 and you look so tired. I would not wish this hell on my worst enemy. Have faith in the fact that it is almost over! The difference in the crime scene photos are enough to tell ANYONE that you are innocent!! Keep the faith, get some well earned rest, and know that we believe in you and are praying for you. Xxx

Regards always,

Tanith
South Africa"

Another great Blog by Jeralyn Merrit at TalkLeft......


Pistorius Testimony Over, Back to Expert Witnesses
By Jeralyn, Section Crime in the News
Posted on Tue Apr 15, 2014 at 03:30:42 PM EST

Oscar Pistorius has completed his testimony. The prosecutor picked apart every little detail hoping to show his version of events was not possible. The state is pushing an alternate theory, however, it sounds like it's nothing more than "it might have happened this way." He didn't get Oscar to admit that any of the elements of his theory were correct. The state's theory is predicated on an argument between the couple, and given Oscar's denial and the lack of any other witnesses present, I don't see how the theory can be considered proved in any way, let alone by proof beyond a reasonable doubt.

...more at link
http://www.talkleft.com/story/2014/4/15 ... -Witnesses

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