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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2014 5:07 am 
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10:06 am
Nel was demonstrating the trajectory of one of the bullets via a laser.

Judge Masipa and her team are now back in their seats.

10:02 am
This is all a little awkward.

Now a man is spraying some mist.

10:00 am
We're back underway.

Gerrie Nel has started by asking the judge and her advisers to come and look at the door close up.

Everyone has to stand up as she makes her way from her seat.

Bet she wasn't expecting this.

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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2014 5:23 am 
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10:18 am
Ah here we go.

Wolmarans confesses that he has added to this report during the trial.

He has also just admitted that he does not have a filing system in his office.

Nel asks if the court wanted to see what his original report looked like before the trial started would it possible?

It seems like the answer is no.

10:15 am
Wolmarans is being grilled on him filing an earlier report which has since been added to.

Not sure what Nel is trying to achieve with this but Wolmarans is certainly on the ropes about it.

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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2014 5:33 am 
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10:29 am
Wolmarans admits that the test was carried out because of "a YouTube video".

10:28 am
Wolmarans now being grilled about him supervising the decibel test on the cricket bat and gunshots.

He keeps saying "I'm not a sound expert".

He says he was asked to supervise by the defence.

10:22 am
"I was never asked to alter my report to suit the defence case," Wolmarans says under pressure about his report.

He was suckered in by Nel there.

The prosecutor hadn't actually made that suggestion and Wolmarans made it for him.

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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2014 5:39 am 
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10:36 am
Wolmarans is now denying that he has ever consulted with Pistorius on his version of events.

However, he seems to admit that Pistorius has been present when aspects of the case were being discussed.

"I'm not biased," he says.

10:33 am
Wolmarans has admitted that he and Roger Dixon, a forensics expert for the defence, went for a beer together after he gave evidence.

He admits they probably discussed the case.

But he denies he altered his report based on what Dixon told him.

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11:00 am
This is Wolmarans behind the door pretending to be Reeva.

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He is talking through when and how the bullets hit her.

10:58 am
Wolmarans is now going to pretend to be Reeva reacting to being shot.

There is very odd.

Nervous laughter in court.

10:49 am
Wolmarans launches into an unprompted eulogy about Captain Mangena.

He says they refer to each other in Afrikaans terms of affection they are so close.

Wolmarans seems to be a friendly character.

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11:15 am
Wolmarans is talking through the sequence of bullets.

He says Reeva suffered the head wound as she collapsed backwards.

11:09 am
Wolmarans launches into an explanation of his own.

"A lot of things can be inferred from what I've told the court," he says.

But another expert can come in tomorrow and say something different, he adds.

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Comparing bullet fragment Wolmarans found in toilet with wound on Reeva's back

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11:42 am
Nel says to the judge that we've been on a "long stretch".

He asks for an early lunch break and we'll return at 12.40pm UK time.

11:39 am
We're now talking about the injury to Reeva's back.

Pistorius has his head in his hands again when a close-up photo is shown.

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Poor old Nellie.....

Looks like the Judge was on to him wanting a tea break on top of the 40 min break to set up the laser circus show... :83

Nel missed his "tea break" :66 and so now wants an early lunch :stamp



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1:03 pm
We're arguing about the trajectory of bullets.

Nel seems to be very upset that Wolmarans thinks one of the bullets went upwards when its trajectory is downwards.

It's getting a bit tetchy.

12:54 pm
An interesting bit of insight from some of the chatter over lunch.

Wolmaran thinks he is being painted as an "incredible" witness

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1:25 pm
Bizarre moment of the day was Wolmarans pretending to be Reeva behind the toilet door earlier.

He's a good screen grab of it from Mirror reporter Lucy Thornton.

1:21 pm
More discussion about the sound test that was carried out and whether this has influenced Wolmarans conclusions.

Nel not impressed by his repeated "I'm not a sound expert" answers.

1:11 pm
It's getting a little tedious now.

Even Pistorius is bored.

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1:57 pm
Nel has another go back at the magazine rack argument.

Wolmarans says she was falling as she was shot.

And with that, Nel says he's had enough for the day.

Asks to adjourn till Monday - judge Masipa agrees.

1:51 pm
Getty Oscar Pistorius Trial - 9th May
Oscar Pistorius attends his murder

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Pistorius caught yawning through his defence before.

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1:42 pm
Nel is going after Wolmarans' claim that Reeva was close to the door when she was shot.

He says the splinters were spread fairly wide so she would have been further away.

"We will never know what happened behind that door for sure," says Wolmaran, in a telling remark.

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Nel asks to adjourn 10 minutes early....

He says "It's been a long day for me".... take out 40 mins "laser circus break", take out an hour for lunch... and Nel would have "worked" for damn near 4 hours today... :lol

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Replay of Today's Court proceedings....


PISTORIUS TRIAL - VIDEO REPLAYS (NO DISCUSSION)
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Daily Maverick - Day 29

Pistorius Trial: Week Seven, Day Four
http://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/ ... 2zRRHZWhug

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The State vs Oscar Pretorius (Murder 1)



Trial Day 30

Start 9:30 AM Monday (5-12-14)

9:00AM J/Burg ----> 3:00AM ET ----> 2:00AM CT ---->1:00AM MT ---->12:00AM PT
(Times amended to include US clocks moved one hour forward)


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Mirror.co.uk: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news ... es-3201648




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telegraph: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... -live.html

dailymaverick: http://www.dailymaverick.co.za/

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Daily Mirror - Live Blog

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7:49 am
On Friday, Tom Wolmarans gave evidence about the gunshots which killed Reeva.

At one point he left the witness box and hid behind the toilet door in court to illustrate how the model would have reacted.

He disputed a number of the prosecution theories, including which bullets hit Reeva and how close she was to the door.

6:48 am
Welcome to our live blog where we will be covering the murder trial of Oscar Pistorius.

We are in the final stages of the athlete's defence.

Court was adjourned on Friday as we continued to hear evidence for the defence ballistics expert Tom Wolmarans.

He will be back on the stand this morning when court resumes

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8:59 am
Nel now goes back to Wolmarans having met with the other defence witness Roger Dixon after he gave his evidence.

For some reason Wolmarans says he remembers that they ate T-bone steaks in a restaurant.

He says they did discuss the case, it would have been "abnormal" if they hadn't.

Nel implying that they colluded to tailor their evidence.

8:57 am
Nel has been pursuing this point because it shows a difference in opinion between defence experts.

Prof Botha, the pathologist, said he believed the magazine rack had caused the injury to Reeva's back.

8:55 am
Nel jumping back to the back injury suffered by Reeva.

Wolmarans says he doesn't think it was caused by the magazine rack.

Nel says this contradicts Prof Botha's evidence.

Wolmarans confirms that he disagrees with him on this point.

8:51 am
Nel suggesting the test was carried out again because of the background noise.

Wolmarans going back to his: "I'm not a sound expert" response.

He must have said that over and over again since he has been on the stand.

8:48 am
Nel now asking about the decibel tests the defence carried out.

He asks why there was such a delay between the tests - the first was on 21 March the second 9 April.

Wolmarans said there was no particular reason, it was just a matter of finding the time.

8:40 am
Prosecutor Gerrie Nel is asking Wolmarans about where Pistorius was standing when he fired the shots.

Does he agree with state expert Captain Mangena on this point?

He says yes.

Does he also agree that Pistorius was on his stumps?

He says yes.

8:37 am
We're underway.

Wolmarans is still under oath and is continuing his evidence.

He has made his photos of the crime scene available to the defence.

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9:38 am
Nel has now finished questioning Wolmarans.

Roux has asked for a 15 minute adjournment for "administration purposes" and to "set something up".

9:37 am
Nel is questioning Wolmarans on the details of his CV. He left the police force in 1992 and since then has been acting privately.

Nel asks whether or not Wolmarans took any proficiency tests in that time - as members of the police force are required to do yearly.

Wolmarans says he did not.

9:33 am
That sound test Wolmarans is talking about - he admits nobody asked him to do it.

He "just did".

9:30 am
Nel is asking if there are any further sound tests made on the crime scene - Wolmarans says there were none.

But then admits: "I told a lie my lady."

He says he stood inside the lavatory door and called out to his colleague.

9:25 am
Wolmarans is adamant he does not think the wound to Steenkamp's back was caused by a ricocheting bullet - meaning it must have been caused by the magazine rack.

Nel is now questioning the position of the magazine rack in the reconstruction - but Wolmarans says he had a very limited time on the crime scene - only a couple of hours at most - and to conduct a through in investigation he would have needed two to three days, possibly a week.

Wolmarans then describes the photos he took on the crime scene as having "no value".

9:17 am
Wolmarans stresses he is not an expert - but does have a lot of experience in - blood splatter.

He also agrees with Dixon's evidence - that the position of the magazine rack.

9:12 am
Nel and Wolmarans are discussing the position Reeva was in when she fell.

They agree she couldn't have been on her haunches.

She also couldn't have been on the toilet.

So she could have been sat on the magazine rack? Doesn't make sense given the height at which she was hit?

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Nel finished... but Roux wants a 15 min break "to set something up"

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