The patent lack of cranial cognizance that must exist in the heads of those numbskulls who can't streak though the buffoonery that Nel spoodles out with a straight face is truly stunning.

It is by implication a certainty that there was a "row." How do we know that? Well he killed her didn't he? She was leaving him. roflma. Do they ever stop to think that this would have to be the script?



Reeva: I just texted my friend that I'm staying the night, but I decided I'm leaving you. And I'm taking that box on the table with me so don't go down there and open it.

Oscar: What box?

Reeva: That one that says Oscar on it with the card. I changed my mind.

Oscar: Well, if you're leaving then, get out of my house.

Reeva: NO, I'm too tired. I'll leave in the morning.

Oscar: No, you get out now. (Oscar starting to yell)

Reeva: Shut up Oscar, you know you want me to stay. And besides I just ate and I'm sleepy.

Oscar: No, you get the F out (Oscar going around the bed to get his 9 mm)

Reeva: What's with you, are you going mental?

Oscar: I'll show you mental, get the F out of my house NOW! Do you see this gun?

Reeva: (starting to run down the passageway and scream) Oscar what the F is wrong with you? (screams)

Oscar: Yah, that's a good place, run into that bathroom. You wait 'til I get in there. I'll teach you to leave me and then not leave. I told you get the F OUT OF MY HOUSE!! And call the police!!

Reeva: What???

Oscar: Get out of my effing house!!!!....Reeva, call the police!!!!!!!!!!

Reeva I will, (opens bathroom window going into the toilet, slamming the door and locking it) You're effing nuts. (screams)

aavi... you are honing in on this.... I think you almost have it...

But...............

The narrative is CRYING OUT for a Teen-girl's Romance Comic book treatment

Close up... Reeva (with tears on cheek) SCREAMS!!



We all KNOW that lawyers from both sides read "Random Topics".... I predict that Herrie Nil will now be working on a "romance Comic"... to hand out as his Closing Argument.

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It will be worthy of an HBO comedy special to hear him explain how the blood drops got on the duvet and above the headboard. He has to do it or even the Nelnistas will start to scratch their heads. Oscar doesn't have to do anything. I don't think he even knows.

It will be classic to see how the duvet ends up on the floor when Botha the clown says in his statement that it was on the bed when he entered the bedroom. And be sure and talk about the bloody T-shirt too Nel. Your clown screwed you again

One thing for sure, we will have to pull our feet up off the floor because we will be in bullshit up to our knees by the end of the day.

Oh Nel and PS,

Don't forget to tell us how the bullet hole got in the bedroom door that night and why Van Der Nest your own blood expert isn't correct when he says Pistorius' version is the most probable explanation for all the blood found. I'm waiting with rapt anticipation for that. Please oh please, I can't sleep at night until I know.

That is all. Bye.

One thing that the clowns haven't addressed is why was nothing out of place if Reeva was so angry she was packing and out the door? Her sandals were neatly in one spot, her overnight bag neatly packed in a spot on the couch or chair. I don' know if I was telling a guy fuck off it would not be in-between folding my unmentionables. So many illogical gymnastics must be made for the fight of the century to have taken place with Oscar turning into a homicidal monster that it really does beg the grey matter to put a halt to all natural reason.

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If you put those Neldunes on a polygraph and asked them if they really cared about the evidence, and they said yes, we're just interested in the truth...the needle would go around twice and fly off.

And then they would say Oscar tried to poke them with the needle

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I wonder if his dad is one of those that won't testify because of not wanting anything on TV. There is something really weird going on there if that was his ammunition in the safe and I believe it was. What possible reason would Oscar have for ammunition in his safe for a gun he didn't own.

But his father is in a real pickle if he owns up to it because then he's storing ammunition that is not within his direct control and that's a whopping huge no-no over there with their firearm statute restrictions. He would be charged.

Here again, Oscar might be hung out to dry. Everything a perfect storm against him. No wonder he's contemplated suicide.

His dad IMO is not such a swell fellow.

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I came across a Warrior for Rationality at another site....

http://juror13lw.wordpress.com/2014/07/ ... omment-459

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I'll give an example of brain going on autopilot:

I was out with a friend and we were partying hearty in a bar a good distance from where we were stationed at a military base. The bar closed. My friend said he would drive, that he wouldn't have any trouble. I said are you sure because I'm not sleepy, I can drive. He said, no I'm fine. I said okay. We were in a Chrevrolet Corvair convertible which was a pretty hot car at that time. The top was up beause it was a little chilly.

We started out and were laughing and joking it up for the first 30-40 miles. I asked him again, are you still doing okay, are you tired yet? He said no problem, I'll make it all the way. I said okay, I'm going to get a little sleep then--if you want me to take over, let me know. He said I got it, sack out.

The next thing I know I'm sensing like we're on a roller coaster ride. We go down and then back up, then we're rolling over and over, then are spinning around in circles. I'm bouncing all around in the car. When we came to a stop, the car was upside down and my feet were on the ceiling. I could hear screeching of tires and felt a lot of blood running down my neck. I put my hand to my head and could feel a big cut.

People were talking to me trying to help me out of the car asking "are you alright, are you alright? " I staggered out of the car and they started helping my friend. The next thing I know people are yelling to me. GET OFF THE ROAD, GET OUT OF ROAD!! I yelled back wondering what the hell are they talking about.

The road we were traveling on was a 4 lane freeway with a grass divider in between. I was standing right in the middle of the two lanes of the oncoming traffic that was coming from the other way. Cars were coming at me 70 miles an hour, tires were screeching, horns were blowing. Some people came and grabbed me and yanked me off the road just in time or I would have been flattened like a tortilla.

My brain had told me what I needed to do was get far enough away from the danger of that car that I had just been in that was upside down with the headlights beaming straight into the air. I was looking at it smoking. I had no concept where I was except for wanting to be away from there. If it wasn't for those people that jerked me off that road, there is zero doubt that I would have caused a multi-car pileup, other deaths and been killed for certain then myself.

When we viewed the car later at the wrecking yard, the top was smashed into the seat and it was crushed like an accordion. Nobody believed there were survivors in that car. What had happened is that my friend fell asleep, we went down into the median grass, then this apparently woke him up. His first instinct was to whip the steering wheel and get back up on the road. When he did that, we flipped and this caused us to roll over three times, spun around in a complete circle twice, before ending up right in the middle of the two lanes upside down. What almost killed me was what my brain concluded that all I want you to do is be away from that car. I'm thinking I'm safe.

The brain is an enigma of itself. It doesn't go by logic, it goes by survival. Anybody who doesn't see that this evolution of events that Oscar encountered that night--and that his brain didn't go by that rule- is just blind to what fear can do. There is no doubt in my mind that he didn't realize he was pulling that trigger.

When you have experienced something like I did, you'll know why the brain does what it wants. And that's what it did that night.

Wow... the crash sound horrific, aavi.
You and your friend were lucky... a few times it sounds like!!

Fear (and trauma) will do funny things to what people do at the time as well as what they later remember.

OP does extremely well to describe events as well as he does.... I liken Nil's bullying and leading "trick" questions repeated over and over to interrogation rather than proper questioning. Nil may pride himself on being able to bully every witness... but surely the Judges can see what he does?

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I agree that applying what a logical brain not in fear for it's survival would do to Oscar's brain on that AM in question, is just foolishness.

As someone else mentioned (Steve? ) it seems a lot of the folks who are certain that Oscar purposefully hunted Reeva down have been victims of domestic violence themselves and IMO that first hand violence experience has in some cases biased their ability to look at the Reeva/Oscar tragedy objectively.

Sad. Sad that anyone has had to experience violence at the hands of another.


And I am very happy that you survived and were then rescued Aavi, It sounds like a horrific experience.

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If there is a question that should by it's very nature cause anyone who is open to the precept that all evidence must be presented in the light that there is a presumption of innocence, this manifestly screams innocence:


Would he scream this if he just shot a scruffy bearded burglar intentionally or even if he just shot Reeva with full intention to do it? ....

No, ple-a-aase.....please no !!!


Who is he talking to? I thought he just did what he wanted. What is he in such a panic about? Then he would be savagely breaking his ten foot high very sturdy toilet door two minutes later? It doesn't matter if you assume those were the shots or the cricket bat, we know at 3:19 he was already on the phone and we know the center part of the door was on the floor. And we know Reeva was downstairs only a couple minutes later. So this is all part of his master plan already to fool everybody?

Then he leaves the gun in the ready-to-fire position on she shower mat. What was that for, to be all ready to shoot Reeva again if she wasn't dead enough yet?

Pretty stupid murderer.

Yup. This is like a 5 tumbler combination lock but you have only one number. Yet the lock is still going to open

I actually don't think you even have one number Nel.

Thenk you varry much.

The really crazy part is that there's no dearth of legit badass murderers, etc. in SA and everywhere. Why in the world is this matter so freaking pressing?

I'm so far behind with any news of this case but catching up some when reading here. I still am of the opinion that they cannot disprove that OP acted under the assumption that there was an intruder in the bathroom. But with an emotional spin who knows.

What a horrible accident, Avi. And yeah the brain can cause a lot of strange reactions during certain events.

Oscar Pistorius gets into nightclub altercation

JOHANNESBURG (AP) — Oscar Pistorius was in an altercation at an upmarket nightclub over the weekend, his family said Tuesday.

Pistorius went with a cousin to a trendy Johannesburg nightclub on Saturday, where he was accosted by a man who aggressively questioned him about his murder trial, his family said Tuesday. The man gave a different version, saying the double-amputee runner was drunk, insulted his friends and the family of President Jacob Zuma and poked him in the chest, according to Johannesburg's The Star newspaper.

Regardless of who started the argument, the weekend episode focuses fresh attention on the disputed character of Pistorius, a globally recognized athlete who is on trial for murder after he fatally shot girlfriend Reeva Steenkamp through a closed toilet door on Feb. 14, 2013. Defense lawyers describe Pistorius, currently free on bail, as a vulnerable figure with a disability who pulled the trigger in a tragic case of mistaken identity, but prosecutors portray him as a gun-obsessed hothead who shot Steenkamp after the couple quarreled.

...more at link
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ol ... /12665093/

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Oscar Pistorius family denounce 'outrageous' claims about nightclub fight
By Aislinn Laing, Johannesburg
11:37AM BST 16 Jul 2014


Jared Mortimer, left, told a South African celebrity news website that Oscar Pistorius, right, had
boasted to him of his family’s influence and bad-mouthed his friends Photo: AP

The family of murder-accused Paralympic athlete Oscar Pistorius have denounced as “outrageous” claims that he insulted President Jacob Zuma and boasted about his relatives’ influence over government in the run-up to a scuffle that saw him ejected from a Johannesburg nightclub at the weekend.

Leo Pistorius, the 27-year-old’s uncle, said the claims made by Jared Mortimer, a racing car driver and clothes label owner who was at Sandton’s VIP Room on Saturday, were “designed for maximum attention and maximum damage”.

Mr Pistorius said that while the decision by his nephew to go to the nightclub was “unwise and ill-considered”, it was because he had an “escalating sense of loneliness and alienation” which they believe is causing “self-harming behaviour”.

He said that his own investigations, corroborated with people who were present at the exclusive nightspot, confirmed that “Mortimer was the aggressor”.

Percy Mermigas, the club’s manager, backed up Mr Pistorius’s version, saying that “everything is being blown out of proportion’’.

...more at link
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... fight.html

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