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PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 10:05 am 
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First witness today... questioned by Guy...

Sukhan Warf, FDLE biological investigator.

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Accepted as "expert Witness".... Judge instructing Jury on how to consider expert witness testimony

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 10:07 am 
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Warf has been tendered as an "expert" in her field. Judge telling jury that means she can give her opinion

Warf being questioned by ASA John Guy. Explaining basics of DNA right now

Warf says there was no "touch DNA" located on a casing she tested. Calls that "common occurrence"

Strolla on cross: you were sent more samples (from inside #MichaelDunn car), why not test them? Warf: wouldn't have led to unique info

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 10:14 am 
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A bit of a waste of time. Testifying she did NOT find DNA on swap from shell casing?

NO DNA does not prove no human hand touched the shell casing!

However.............I hope people take the GENERAL point that failure to see something (DNA) does NOT prove anything.

NOT seeing people stashing a gun does NOT prove it never happened!

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Next witness.... questioned by Corey

Maria Pagan, also w/ FDLE, crime lab analyst on firearms

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 10:19 am 
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Corey in red...still ugly

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Pagan says she tests firearms, looks at fired bullets, restores serial numbers, etc. Also tendered "expert"

SA Angela Corey is questioning Pagan, working through some mechanics on how guns work

Pagan is explaining some ways a casing can be damaged, like traveling through an object or person

Corey now starting to focus Pagan more directly on this case

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Corey first showing Pagan fragments that are "very hard to identify", Pagan explaining why

Pagan says she was not able to eliminate nor identify the casing given for this case, no good markings

Pagan" it would be "very difficult" to identify bullets fired from this (submitted) gun

Pagan says there were grooves and twist on bullets that matched submitted gun so "narrowed down", but nothing further

Pagan now explaining 5 9mm shell casings submitted by JSO. COULD identify as being fired from submitted pistol

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Seems to me these "experts" are being questioned to head off failings, rather than present much that they actually found

Sort of pre-emptive CYA by Corey

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Other shell casings found in and on #MichaelDunn's car were also matched to gun in his glove box, acc to Pagan

Pagan says the holster w/ the gun does not have strap, or anything that would cause "extra step" to get gun out

Pagan says firearm was functioning, but thumb safety wasn't operating "as smoothly as it normally would"

The gun has other safeties that were functioning

Pagan says firing the pistol "double action" requires about twice as much force as "single action"

Corey: Does this take a conscious effort to shot a 2nd, 3rd etc bullet from this gun? Pagan: yes

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Well, since that is not a requirement in the state of Florida, who cares?

Florida law says the gun must be encased in a vehicle. That means it can be fully loaded, no holster in the glove box and be legal because the glove box is a case. Now if you have a CWP and it is on or about your person, you don't have to have it encased at all.


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Strolla..... showing she is LESS than thorough .... :doh

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Strolla: did you ever research the gun's serial number? Are you sure nobody else ever owned it? Pagan: not sure, they don't check serials

Pagan says she never checked to see if it was modified specifically for a "hair trigger", although nothing noticeably off

@sannewache @tjholmes consistently through cross-ex he has questioned the investigation in to the shooting.

Pagan is visibly uncertain why Strolla is asking what he's asking. Right now, q's about sound gunshots make

Pagan: no apparent modifications to make this gun more powerful

Corey: Do any of the questions Strolla asked affect this gun's ability to kill a human being? Pagan: no.

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Some sort of break/Sidebar

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 11:12 am 
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Judge calling morning break now bc next witness will be "somewhat lengthy"

until 10:30


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