It turned out to be so true when Travis told jodi she was the worst thing to happen to him - if only he knew when he said that how prophetic it was.

I've been catching up and that's when I saw that Deana had Napoleon she's taken good care of him.

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I'm actually watching day 25 part 2 of 3 cross by prosecutor again just now because when I watched it first time I missed some things - so I'm amazed once again at her attitude, and trying to hold her own against a mighty good prosecutor, who is not letting her away with anything.

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I am so grateful to Juan... he came thru like a CHAMP!!! The questions were great enough ...
but to SHOW HER for what she REALLY IS, I think was the final nail in the coffin. BRAVO Juan MARTINEZ!!

He ripped that semi-human mask off it's face and exposed her for what she is. A SKANKY, REPTILIAN, ARROGANT, VICIOUS SLASHER!!!

None of us will every know exactly the chain of events which led to slaughter in that house on that day. Only Jodi Arias knows exactly what happened first and for how long it continued. We now only have what she tells us in court, just one side of the story.

Though forensics have a huge role to play, they still can't tell us precisely everything, but my goodness they sure tell us a lot these days. In years gone by the forensics were not as good as they are now, which is to our greater benefit.

I often wish that murderers would just own up to their actions, tell where bodies have been buried to help bereaved families and tell exactly what they did, but it's not in their makeup - they have no conscience and don't care about the families they've stolen lives from - Jodi Arias joins a long list of them.

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I agree 1000%.

Look how defendants lie on the stand. Look what's at stake - their very life. Was having this same conversation with friends.

Makes me sick - their lies. Now I wonder if with the next trial, jurors are lying to get on? Book deals, fame, etc.? Liars waste my very life. This is NOT my dress rehearsal, it's my life!

TTL ~

Oh, Joni, your descriptions as always a fasnciating read!!!

LOVED "semi-human mask" -

Wroughead -

Reading through your excellent posts:

1) According to interviews with a couple of the roommates, they assumed Travis had left for his Cancun trip and were in and out of the place. I'm assuming they fed little Napoleon.

2) Also according to one roommate, he did smell something funky when he went in and out, but like you said above, he had never smelled decomp and didn't know that was what he was smelling. He also said that he noticed, when going down the stairs the first time to get out of the house, that the banister was slippery and he thought they had been polished. (I'm sure the murderess thought she had thought of everything but oopsies, she forgot the SD card in the camera!)

3) That video of travis recounting the story sure took me aback as well! But only because of Jodi's complete fraud of ripping off HIS STORY and incorporating it into HER STORY to cover for the crime. Right down to there being a man and a woman. In Jodi's story, notice how it is the woman who is in charge?

The part in his story where Travis says he thinks the woman didn't shoot because he turned his expression into one of utter despair was also interesting - I have said before that the picture where Travis looks in utter shock and despair, that he tried to do the same thing with Jodi so she wouldn't harm him - but on Jodi it didn't work.

Thank you Remote for your input. It's interesting, but I kept going back to that picture of Travis sitting in the shower as if he was looking right at me, and each time I look at it I feel the same thing - he does not look ok in that picture, although I suppose you would have to have known him to agree or otherwise with me - he looks startled, surprised and a little afraid to be honest, and I'm wondering if that was the result of when she first attacked him.

I did think at one point that his first injury was the shooting, because that would have slowed him down if he had started to chase him. I know there was some discussion during the trial about the shot being first in the series, perhaps I'll go back and look at it.

I agree too with your comments insofar as this 'couple' suddenly turned up and wanted to kill Travis and Jodi - you're absolutely right on the button - the woman was portrayed as the worst offender by Arias - she sure can make up stories which worries me, because none of us actually know what Travis did or said that afternoon five years ago, because our only witness to those events is Arias - definitely not an honest person, if she tells one lie - how many more has she kept!!

If we are to believe her account of their relationship when they had an argument or fallout of some kind, and his having previously attacked her. What was so different about June 4 2008 for the 'argument' to have ended as it did, I wonder? I should imagine too, that there are a number of men from her past who may be thinking how lucky they are.

The only other thing I wondered about as far as the upcoming Cancun trip - would Travis have left his dog alone in the house had he already left for Cancun - I guess that's part of this awful crime we'll never know, and that if true, the room mates didn't think unusual.

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Morning, Wroughead!

Many have said they think Travis's expression in that particular shower picture is one of surprise. That never occurred to me because as he seems to be sitting, (after pictures of him standing), I would think he was ordered to sit by Jodi (threatening with gun/knife or both). Of course, I don't know him, but I don't think he would have sat like that for no reason. It looks like a very small shower space.

His eyes, to me, look incredibly sad and pleading.

Lots of back and forth regarding the knife/gun. Of course, the Medical Examiner thinks it was the knife first. A couple of things he explained: 1) due to his bleeding out from all the knife wounds caused little blood to be left, thus the lack of blood from the shooting event. 2) Also, the bullet casing being found on top of the pool of blood was given as another reason. The ME testimony is always a good listen for other reasons.

The only thing one of the roommates thought odd was that the little doggie gate was up on the bottom first step in order to keep Napoleon downstairs. Otherwise, I don't think the roommates thought anything odd about Napoleon being there. At that age, everyone is into their own personal "drama" and with many people coming and going, they probably noticed nothing different.

Hi Remote - on the last point about the young folk, on reflection (I have a good memory of my young days LOL) you are probably right, young folk have their own lives and dramas and therefore this can't be used as any kind of guide.

I listened very closely to the ME's evidence and it would seem the last event in Travis's life was the neck wound for sure, just goes to show she didn't have to do the 'overkill' bit because he would have died from the accumulated injuries he already had.

I do think there is a look of despair in his eyes - and with such a tiny shower, I don't imagine getting to the sitting position on the floor of it, was something that easily done, you could be right he may have been ordered to sit that way.

I wish we all had a magic glass we could look at and go back to that house on June 4 2008.

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I wouldn't want to go back to see it, but everything we do know is still quite unfathomable to me.

I'm unbelievably curious about what prompted Travis to finally blow his stack at Jodi in the email exchange (of course they only showed Travis's angry words - nothing of what the murderess said to provoke him).

And, that's the crux of the matter I believe. What set of words and/or circumstances made this day so differeent from their other days - well we will probably never know, unless at some point evidence not exhibited in court and shown to the jury is revealed.

I think too what's captured all of us so much about this particular case, is the photographic evidence taken by Arias during the murder.

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WH, Remote everyone. HI!!
That last living photo of Travis will always haunt me. I wonder about being blinded by the "flash"? I think he either saw something before or after, or HEARD something. I am sure FURIOUS killers like this are talking all the time. WHO COULD SHUT UP JODI ARIAS? Not even a KILLING could I bet!!!! GOD - what she must have said to him as she was killing him!!! It wouldn't surprise me if she was telling him she will take Napoleon! ANYTHING - - EVERYTHING - - to hurt Travis. She continues her mission (we SEE IT), by tormenting, torturing his family now. BOY HOW she HATED HIM!!!! She didn't castrate him? Oh maybe she didn't have enough time the way things came down. The roommates probably were due home very soon...

I heard on Dr. Drew Jodi does NOT have a good jail record. I think there is a 16 page report on her breaking jail rules.
She kicked one of the inmates in her cell I think. (Oh like Mommy and that poor little dog that ran away?)
She pushed another one into the wall. (Oh like Daddy was "supposed" to have done to HER!)
She hid PENS, not crayons as Sheriff Joe keeps saying. (What's with HIM and Jodi? Won him over? He has a *star* there in his prison?)
The point about pens is they can be made into shanks, right?
She had other things hidden in her cell. Against their rules.
SKANK to the bone!!!

On And On (People ARE consistent, aren't they?)

She had leg chains on in court and some kind of "stun gun part", (receiver?) or something.
Hmmm - she could be zapped from afar?? Thought her to be a flight risk. Of course!!!
Lowest of the LOW ... That pig trolled those Conventions, looking for wholesome, successful "PREY".
DID she EVER make one penny from Prepaid Legal? I doubt it. A failure at EVERYTHING she tried it seems. Mediocre, AT BEST!!! She must have started to realize that as approaching 30. IT became Travis' problem? I guess so...

Only MHO here, but probably that Jodi finally showed her hand, telling Travis he'd BETTER take her to Cancun or else!! Or ELSE she was going to disclose their sex tapes that she made of them. (I notice sometimes she would say "What did you say??? That was ONLY to make him REPEAT it no doubt). HE didn't know of them.
I feel he got furious about her betrayal, and despicable behavior and threats. He **FINALLY** saw what a low-rent TRASHY, SICK, DESPERATE person she was!! Finally, understood what his friends meant/saw much earlier!
After those ugly emails - - she probably finally knew she was BUSTED, (knew WHAT she was), and it WAS OVER then ... planned her last trip and slaughter. I don't think he did anything but "stick to his guns" saying, "No, I am not taking you." In the beginning, he HAD her name down as going with him on that trip. He removed it later, and replace it with Mimi's name.
Not only was this a nice trip, but it would BE a loud and clear announcement I think to all in his circle, that SHE WAS OUT! FINE'!!! They were over!! She had nothing but him. No friends, (only HIS friends), except a few of those males she serviced. She had nothing! A messy, tiny room in a very old tiny house - her grandparent's house. MHO.

Jodi Arias has so enjoyed being the center of attention, both in courtroom and outside of it, this worries me because in prison or not, I think she is dangerous to anyone who, let's say, communicates with her, as she will want to use that person or persons in order to stay in the media - that's just a feeling I have because I think she has psychopathic tendencies, and a large ego.

One think I should add here, is that there were a couple of days' evidence that I missed and which I'm now watching as I type. I'm interested to see if psychiatric reports were made, which I'm sure they would have, so I want to go over them maybe before I comment further. As we all know there is a huge difference between a psychiatrist who is a medical person, and a psychologist, so I'd be interested to hear what a psychiatrist has to say.

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For sure. Addicted now. Sad when all one has - - is their sex.

For sure, there were no great defense witnesses who wanted to testify for her case, she had very few friends.

I don't know what happens in the States but a case like this one would have had psychiatric reports done on the accused to see if he or she had no mental conditions now or at the time they committed the crime.

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WH Hi.

I don't know if she had mental exams - probably did. Here we also have requirements of being SANE -LEGALLY. I am not sure if that means knows the difference between right or wrong at the time of the killing, I think it does. In SPITE of her "selective FOG", I think she knew because of her cover-ups. Locking the door to Travis' bedroom suite, putting the gate across the bottom of the stairs to keep Napoleon from going upstairs, getting out before the roommates came back, her attempted clean-up, his new camera in the washer, washing off Travis in the shower (her DNA?), sheets in the washer, getting **RID of ANY of HER DNA** - she thought! SHE wasn't EVEN THERE!!!

That poor sweet little innocent Napoleon. And then later on he had to recognize the smell of death/decomposition ... coming from up there. Hopefully his sense of smell was dulled too, like his eyesight, hearing, etc. Poor baby ... and now no Travis.

The little dog's sense of smell would have been very good five years ago, and he would definitely have smelled it, and in all fairness, he would have recognized that odor.

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OH no ...

Her torment and grief is endless. I REALLY can't STAND HER! EVIL, CRUEL, and SADISTIC!