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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 6:46 pm 
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Rumpole wrote:
Housekeeping matters... Joni's lunch?

And mentioned her "migraine"??

They didn't provide her lunch - is that correct?

What a mess! They shouldn't be wasting time like this!


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Maybe the sort of thing she wants to eat for "Lunch" is off the menu? :61

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....with lots of butter! ;)

Later, all! :23


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This is a post on Facebook by a jury watcher:

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First off, I want to say, I have no experience in juries, I also don't want to argue. Many of my own observations seem to contradict what I have read that others have had,


Also I have no degree that makes my opinion worth more then other peoples.I have, over 10 yrs, first went to school with the idea I would be a social worker,after 7 social welfare and psychology classes, I realized I have to hard of a time accepting "not my fault" and so that was not going to work out.I then took every journalism and judicial studies class that our local community college offered , about 10 in total. I also took English, writing, fiction writing, biography writing, creative writing, American history, many computer classes, and many others, all required classes for a associates degree in general studies except math. Without math, I didnot get a degree.


I have also raised 4 children to adulthood and worked for 6 yrs in a Title I school,after passing the testing was able to teach small groups of title I students mostly in grade 3, (in my opinion, the lying grade) also 5th and 6th. Also was librarian for the school for a while. Title I students are those who are at least 2 yrs behind in math and/or reading.


So with that out of the way, I say once again, I am underqualified to observe professionally, and am not saying the people who saw things differently are wrong.So please don't read this and then say how wrong I am.


My overall observation, is that the jury (when I was there) was very attentive to what was going on. I also feel that they are not favoring Jodi.


I, for notetaking ease, assigned a letter to each juror right away and made a chart so I could easily identify in my notes. Also my age estimates are just that, my own estimation. Also any description I give means nothing more then what I saw. I also realized when I got home, that Except for A, J, and H, though I remember the others, I can not say who was what. A and J were definately white men, and H appeared to be Native American.


Back to front, left to right. (I do not know if they maintain the same order each day, though I think they might) and this is how I will refer to them. Also there were some jurors that I could not see most of the time. I will identify which ones. When I saw All Jurors, it is all that I had a view of at that time. Some jurors I only saw when people in front of me shifted etc, so what I write is not implying thats the only time they were attentive.
A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I
J, K, L, M, N, O, P, Q, R


All - Pay close attention when mugshot testimony and 48 hours explanation. Seem to be listening closely on the incident of Jodi being in Tavis' house and falling asleep on his "lovesack" while he out with Mimi. They as a group seem unhappy with Nurmi's outbust around this time. A few watch Nurmi closely as he inspects the dvd evidence, look agitated.


Front row (most of them) are tracking back and forth between Jodi and Juan when the testimony is about her moving to AZ. Looks almost as if they are watching a ping pong game, for at least a couple of minutes. Many of them are leaning forward and most are writing.


"A" is a Male, 50ish baldingLooked puzzled when Juan was mentioning the sex tape. Kept glancing at Jodi's family during the FHE discussion.Writing a lot when Mugshot/48 hours explantion. Writing a lot during the whole "innocent of THAT charge" testimony.


"B" is a Female - 30ish -I could not see her very often.Nodding and writing when Juan got Jodi to admit it was her who got in trouble and ultimately her fault that she got grounded.


"C" is a Female - 30ish - I could not see her very oftenI noticed her flipping a page when Jodi agreed it was her fault she got grounded.


"D" is a Male - 50ish I could not see him after he sat down


"E" is a Male - 40's T-shirt with a green cordaroy or flannel shirt/jacket over that, glasses - my opinion 3rd most attentive Juror.Paid close attention Tracking Juan and Jodi, along with most of the front row, when testimony about why she moved to AZ, was leaning forward and taking notes. Paying close attention when testimony of Jodi leaving school as a junior and moving in with Bobby, and also when testimony about her moving around a lot. Looked to be listening and writing during most of the trial.


"F" is a Male - high 20's ? Low 30's? Flannel Checkered shirt, stubble I only saw him when lady in front of me kinda scooted overWatching intently when talking aout how Jodi pursued Bobby, when she called him and he hung up and she called back. Shook head when Jodi said it could have been a phone malfunction. Flipped pages twice while writing in his notebook during this time.


"G" is a Male - 40's Veiw blocked after he sat down


"H" is a Male - 25 ish? Long black hair, braided or pony tail . Looked Native American by the hair. (The hair reminded me of someone I know, that is why I say that. ) I could only see his body and arms most of the time, not his face. Leaned forward alot off and on the whole time, writing most of the time.


"I" is a Female - upper 20's - out of view after sitting down


"J" is a Male - 50ish, long silver pony tail, jeans -To me seemed to be the 2nd most attentive juror overall. Writing when testimony about how Matt wouldn't betray her. Paying close attention.Paying close attention and writing when talking of sex jodi didn't mind.Paying close attention on the mugshot/48 hours testimony, writing.When Jodi said she didn't see Travis and the woman through a sliding glass door, but it was a window, this juror started flipping back in his notebook as if looking for something he wrote before. Was slightly shaking his head in a "no" reaction.Writing alot, turning pages a lot all throughout.



"K" is a Male - 40ishwriting a lot when the "pursuing Bobby" and why she moved to MesaInterestingly I have little written about him, though I remember having a good line of site.


"L" is a Male - older 20's ? younger 30's maybe.Put hand over his mouth when "why she moved to Mesa" testimony and about grandma. Looked almost frightened at the "stalking " Bobby and Travis things. Leaning forward and writing during most things about her pursuing different guys, after she was broken up with them. Also had what I could only call a "are you sh*tting me" look when Jodi said that about she hadn't looked in a sliding door, it was a window.


"M" is a female- 40ishOnly thing I wrote about her is she leaned forward during the testimony of why Jodi moved to Arizona, and was writing at this time. I also saw her most of the time, but don't have anything else written.


"N" is a female - 25 or 30 ish? two toned hair, light blonde on top, brown under the blonde. This is who I belived to be the most attentive Juror. Watched Jodi intently when she was talking about what sex she liked.Shook her head slightly when the mugshot came up on screen.When Jodi talked about using the BMW to drive sister missionaries, this juror was looking at her with a look that made me think of a mom who was watching a child who was lying. Almost an embarrased look with "pursed" lips and slight head shake.Tracking between Juan and Nurmi during 48 hours clips, writing a lot during Jodi's explanations. Nodding when the testimony was about Jodi falling asleep on the "lovesack" when he was out with Mimi. Nodding with a "here we go again" look on her face. I swear she almost rolled her eyes. Writing frantically.


"O" is a male - 60ish Watching Juan when talking of the whole "stalking" Bobby/Travis thingWriting and leaning forward while during the Why she moved to AZ testimony.At BMW testimony flipped a page while writing.Writing all during the 48hours/Mugshot explanation.Leaned forward when she said she was "innocent of THAT charge"


"P" is a Female - 40ishOnly time I saw her was when she leaned forward and was writing during the Why Jodi moved to AZ testimony.


"Q" is a male - 50 ish I did not see after he sat down.


"R" is a female - 60's ? short grey hair. Looks like a grandma or teacher. Closest to JodiLeaned forward and was writing when Mug shot explanation was on 48 hours.Again leaned forward during the "Innocent of THAT charge" statement.Many people have said this is the one who seems to be agreeing with Jodi. I didn't pick up on that. She does nod a lot, but more in an "I see where this is going" kind of way. Often has a look on her face, that I can only describe as the look you wouldn't want to see on your grandma. She does look at Jodi most of the time, and writes most of the time.



A couple of other things. Travis' sister came over while we were waiting in the morning, and handed out blue ribbon pins to any who wanted them. Most people took them. After I got in the courtroom, when the jury first came in, an older man in the row behind me, who was wearing a light green, looked like polyester lesuire suit, said loud enough for me to hear, "she don't have a chance, it's a bunch of damned rednecks. " Him and the lady he was with were not wearing ribbons, but I don't know for sure he was for Jodi.


When I went down the elevator right after they came out for lunch break, I over heard a guy who was talking about how he had never wanted to be subpeoned. He had come out of Jodis courtroom. Was a heavy set white, bald guy with a bright yellow shirt button up shirt. Woman he was with said "so what do you know that is so important". He said "nothing" then said I can't talk about it anymore. I have no idea who it was, or if it was just a coincidence he was talking about himself as a witness, and it had nothing to do with this trial? Anyone know anything about a guy it could be?


And one last thing, after court was over, I kind of waited until the real full elevators went then got in. There was a blonde woman in the elevator who looked like she should be famliar to me. Someone said something about almost falling asleep, I said at least I didn't see any jurors fall asleep, and the blonde lady started talking to me about when she was a prosecutor and that they would call a sleeping juror , the "not guilty " vote. We kept walking together and talking, she said something about how the weather is so strange. She never knows what to wear.(She was wearing a red dress coat) She asked where I was from, while walking away from the court building, we talked a little about Phoenix, she thought it was a misleading city, the way it is spread out, because when your standing downtown, it doesn't look like such a huge city, but it really is. We waited for the light, walked in the same direction, when her phone rang, she said "Sorry, I gotta go, It's Nancy" and got in the InSession satelite truck. I know what InSession is, but I haven't had cable TV since the only court on tv was a channel called Court TV. I think it was the OJ trial was the last one I saw on there. Or maybe the Clinton hearing (not sure which was last)I am just curious to who this might have been. I didn't even realize she was with the media, but when I got home and watched a clip, I saw her in the back row of media.


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Thanks... a handy reference

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5:45 p.m. ET: Judge Stephens has recessed court for the evening. The jury has been sent home. Defense attorney Nurmi is telling the judge that Arias has not been given any lunches during the trial. He also said Arias is suffering from a migrane. Judge Stephens said the Sheriff's office has agreed to provide Arias lunch, and she will check on the issue.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:00 pm 
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So...... has this "lunch" business got anything to do with the "tossed salad" you suggested that I research? :61 :13

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Married woman Jodi thought Travis was having an affair with speaks out:

http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/ ... -peterson/

Jodi Arias Is Lying! Shannon Crabtree Peterson Denies Affair With Travis Alexander!

Jodi Arias dropped the bombshell news that she thought Travis Alexander was having an affair with a married woman and that is why she hacked into his emails on the stand Tuesday, but RadarOnline.com spoke exclusively with the woman who adamantly denies Jodi’s claims!

“No! I was not having an affair with Travis! Jodi is a liar,” Shannon Crabtree Peterson exclusively told RadarOnline.com Tuesday morning when reached by phone, and she said Travis told her about Jodi reading his emails.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:03 pm 
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Rumpole wrote:
So...... has this "lunch" business got anything to do with the "tossed salad" you suggested that I research? :61 :13

You are soooo bad! :29


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She probably needed a "facial" afterwards to help with the migraine.

:blush ....... :HSG



(note that I haven't even TOUCHED on the hideous expression she used today in reference to the BJs and what she characterizes as a "facial") :NN20


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:08 pm 
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And.......

I assume that the "pop-rocks" are for cleansing the palate between "courses" and that the Tootsie roll is imbibed (inserted) as dessert?


I think I have got a handle on all the food references in this case now. :91

Please correct me if I have anything wrong :95

edit: See "facial" has forced itself onto the table... always soothing... love the hot scented towels you get on planes.. very refreshing.

As for "I have got a headache dear"...... no sign of that in her earlier adventures? :26

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Nice summary posted on another forum:


- I was controlled by Travis
- he was promiscious
- he used me, I felt like a prostitute
- he was violent
- he was mean
- he hit me
- he broke my finger
- forced sexcapades...she wasnt onboard for most of it...
- sex encounters which were all his idea...taking nudie pics, tying her up
- not jealous when he was with other women because they weren't BF/GF
- Travis cheapened himself in my eyes because he was courting me


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I can't tell you how relieved I am that hubby has NO IDEA about this trial or he would be getting some very unnecessary ideas! :13


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As I have said before... I find it unfortunate?, unpleasant?... something? That sex details are being exposed in public.

Taken out of context.. sex is silly... talk of sex variations per se does not bother me. But private stuff like that exposed is "cringe-making"

TRUST is a big part of intimacy... you do trust that what goes on in the bedroom (or the kitchen or wherever) stays between the two of you. (Any more that two and you are asking for trouble.. for the very reason it then ceases to be a contract of trust between two people)

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A joke... NSFW... so don't look


Spoiler:
I was banging this nice Lady over her kitchen table when we heard the front door open.

She said, "It's my husband! Quick, try the back door!"
Thinking back, I really should have run - but you don't get offers like that every day.

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BWAHAHAHAHA! :HSG



You said exactly what I was thinking - and I'm cringing here, too. I'm no prude, but this kind of stuff is really between those two (consenting adults) people and in this case it is SO unnecessary to be revealed. I understand the State wanted to show Jodi's PRE breast augmentation pictures.....WHY???? A sidebar happened today because of it and I wonder what the outcome will be?


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Travis Alexander's floor plan and what Jodi says she did:

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x178 ... 043f07.jpg


If you highlight a url address of a pic... and click [Img] you show pic in post

Only that pic is too big!!

Resized
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oh, ok - I have no idea how this stuff works.... :45


I can teach you... report to my office after regular posting

First look in "Help"
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You guys are moving so way too fast I can't keep up. SLOW DOWN!!!!!!!!!

And Rumpole, I thought you were banned a few days ago! How in the world did you ever get back on here? And, you said... "Labels often show more about the person doing the labelling." I'm going to start giving that some thought. Should be the perfect topic for putting me to sleep tonight. :26

Remote...I want your big pretty pink flower! Your Avatar? That thing is gorgeous! :91

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Thanks! But I can't take the credit - Rumpole is the one who found it and applied it - he's got skills! :NN6

Oh, and like you, Rumpole's quote above gave me pause, too!


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I want to see Jodi's pre and post breast augmentation pictures!!! :32

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