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Author:  Carmelita [ Wed Oct 22, 2014 1:28 am ]
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Could be on the toxicology I think there is one that is more extensive than the coroner did but I could be wrong.
Author:  Rumpole [ Wed Oct 22, 2014 1:54 pm ]
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Comment at CTH....

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John Galt says:
October 22, 2014 at 1:35 am

Real Autopsy vs. Crumptopsy quite a difference :)

12 ng/ml delta 9 THC = more than 2 x DUI level of 5 ng/ml

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John Galt says:
October 22, 2014 at 2:02 am

Look at the graph shown in Fig. 2. Brown’s THC level correlates with a more than 6 x increased risk of accident if driving.

http://www.newapproachwa.org/sites/newa ... %20DUI.pdf
Author:  Rumpole [ Wed Oct 22, 2014 2:17 pm ]
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Press Release, SLMPD Releases Gunshot Residue Lab Results From 10/8 Officer-Involved Shooting:

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Author:  jayjerome [ Wed Oct 22, 2014 2:45 pm ]
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Unanswered Questions: :TF

The autopsy report indicated bruising on Brown’s face, and the back of his hand. Any way to know what caused those bruises? The face bruise may be from the fall forward after being shot. But the hand injury might be a contact bruise from a punch to Wilson’s face.

In the leaked specifics from Wilson’s incident report he says as he started to drive away he spotted the cigars in Brown’s hand, and that’s why he reversed back to the two males. And then during his struggle with Brown he saw him hand the cigars to his accomplice Dorian Johnson.

How would Wilson see that if he was engaged in a struggle with Brown? But if that's what happened, did the police recover those cigars from Dorian Johnson? Or did Johnson admit that happened when the police questioned him? He might have confirmed it as a trade-off because he was never charged as an accomplice in the robbery.

The Medical Examiner's Report say's he arrived at scene approx 1430 hours (2:30pm). But it doesn't say when he was finished. That would help justify the length of time Brown's body remained at the scene. A through ME exam of that kind of police-related shooting would take at least an hour, but if all the protocols were followed it would take even longer. In St Louis County:

In deaths resulting from violence by homicide, suicide, or accident
According to RSMo 58.720 In a full investigation, these are the things the ME is supposed to attend to (from the Handbook Guidelines):

https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles/167568.pdf

Medicolegal Death Investigation Guidelines .................................................. 11
Section A: Investigative Tools and Equipment ....................................... 13
Section B: Arriving at the Scene ............................................................. 15
1. Introduce and Identify Self and Role ........................................ 15
2. Exercise Scene Safety ............................................................... 16
3. Confirm or Pronounce Death .................................................... 17
4. Participate in Scene Briefing
(With Attending Agency Representatives) ............................. 18
5. Conduct Scene “Walk Through” ............................................... 19
6. Establish Chain of Custody ....................................................... 20
7. Follow Laws (Related to the Collection of Evidence) .............. 21
Section C: Documenting and Evaluating the Scene ............................... 23
1. Photograph Scene ..................................................................... 23
2. Develop Descriptive Documentation of the Scene ................... 24
3. Establish Probable Location of Injury or Illness ....................... 25
4. Collect, Inventory, and Safeguard Property and Evidence ........ 26
5. Interview Witness(es) at the Scene ........................................... 27
Section D: Documenting and Evaluating the Body ................................ 29
1. Photograph the Body ................................................................ 29
2. Conduct External Body Examination (Superficial) .................. 30
3. Preserve Evidence (on Body) .................................................... 31
4. Establish Decedent Identification ............................................. 33
5. Document Post Mortem Changes ............................................. 33
6. Participate in Scene Debriefing ................................................. 35
7. Determine Notification Procedures (Next of Kin) .................... 36
8. Ensure Security of Remains ...............

That, and the delay starting the examination due to spectators throwing bottles and shooting off guns, explains the 4 hour time period for removing the body.
Author:  Rumpole [ Wed Oct 22, 2014 3:19 pm ]
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TheLastRefuge@TheLastRefuge2
New Mike Brown Report: the THC levels in Brown’s body may have been high enough to trigger hallucinations

.."blood spatter evidence shows that Brown was heading toward the officer during their face-off"..

Evidence supports officer’s account of shooting in Ferguson
By Kimberly Kindy and Sari Horwitz October 22 at 1:56 PM

Ferguson, Mo., police officer Darren Wilson shot and killed unarmed teenager Michael Brown after they fought for control of the officer’s gun and after Brown moved toward Wilson as they faced off in the street, according to interviews, news accounts and the full report of the St. Louis County autopsy of Brown’s body.

Because Wilson is white and Brown was black, the case has ignited intense debate over how police interact with African American men. But more than a half-dozen unnamed black witnesses have provided testimony to a St. Louis County grand jury that largely supports Wilson’s account of events of Aug. 9, according to several people familiar with the investigation who spoke with The Washington Post.

Some of the physical evidence — including blood spatter analysis, shell casings and ballistics tests — also supports Wilson’s account of the shooting, The Post’s sources said, which cast Brown as an aggressor who threatened the officer’s life. The sources spoke on condition of anonymity because they are prohibited from publicly discussing the case.

The grand jury is expected to complete its deliberations next month over whether Wilson broke the law in confronting Brown, and the pending decision appears to be prompting the unofficial release of information about the case and what the jurors have been told.

...more at link
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/ ... story.html
Author:  jayjerome [ Wed Oct 22, 2014 6:28 pm ]
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"The county police, the FBI and the Justice Department all declined to comment on the information The Washington Post received regarding testimony and evidence in the case."

What? No apologies in the making from Holder and Obama for immediately siding with the bad white cop - wonderful black teenager meme?
Author:  Rumpole [ Wed Oct 22, 2014 9:30 pm ]
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Justice Department condemns Ferguson leaks as effort to influence opinion
By Matt Pearce contact the reporter

With a grand jury decision looming on whether a white police officer should face charges in the killing of an unarmed black 18-year-old in Ferguson, Mo., the investigation has sprung a few leaks.

New details from the inquiry into Michael Brown’s Aug. 9 death — all provided by unidentified sources and which seem to support Officer Darren Wilson’s story of what happened that day — have emerged in St. Louis and national news outlets in recent days.

The U.S. Department of Justice condemned the leaks Wednesday as “irresponsible and highly troubling” and said, “There seems to be an inappropriate effort to influence public opinion about this case.”

The details and news reports say that Brown struggled with Wilson in his patrol car and that Wilson’s gun went off in the car before a brief foot chase ensued.

...more at link
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-fer ... tml#page=1
Author:  Rumpole [ Wed Oct 22, 2014 11:59 pm ]
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Brown family attorney reacts to new autopsy report
Author:  Rumpole [ Thu Oct 23, 2014 4:22 am ]
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Hamas Terrorist, Bassem Masri blocks LE videographer

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Author:  Rumpole [ Thu Oct 23, 2014 2:35 pm ]
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Darren Wilson’s lawyer speaks out on leaked Brown autopsy
10/22/14 10:10 PM—Updated 10/23/14 02:01 PM
By Trymaine Lee

After details from an official autopsy on Michael Brown were exposed to reporters, legal counsel for Darren Wilson, the officer who shot and killed the slain teen, spoke out for the first time since the investigation, saying “we were not responsible for any leaks to any media including those published in the NY Times and the St. Louis Post Dispatch.”

The Thursday morning statement went on to say: “Further, we are not in possession of any of the disclosed reports or the investigative report. Finally, as long as the Grand Jury continues to meet and the Department of Justice continues to investigate, any commentary on this matter should only be done in the appropriate judicial venue and not through the media.”

Hours after the details were published – which could bolster his killer’s claim of self-defense – one of the experts whose analysis was central to those claims told msnbc that her analysis of the findings had been taken out of context.

“You cannot interpret autopsy reports in a vacuum. You need to do it in the context of the scene, the investigation and the witness statements,” Dr. Judy Melinek said. “Sometimes when you take things out of context they can be more inflammatory.”

...more at link
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/forensic-exp ... wn-autopsy
Author:  Carmelita [ Thu Oct 23, 2014 2:56 pm ]
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One could write a doctoral thesis on the hypocrisy of the bolded statements alone. Obama, Holder, and the lynch mob in Ferguson would have drawn and quartered Darren Wilson in the bat of an eyelash if mob rule was allowed.
Author:  kingkazpur [ Thu Oct 23, 2014 3:45 pm ]
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Don Lemon on the The Tom Joyner Morning Show Thursday said new reports on the Michael Brown shooting indicate that an indictment of officer Darren Wilson is more unlikely than previously thought.

“Barring a videotape that clearly shows the events on Canfield Drive on August 9, 2014 — judging from the evidence revealed thus far, anything is possible — but at this point an indictment of officer Darren Wilson is looking more and more like it’s not going to happen,” Lemon said.

The St. Louis Dispatch reported this week that experts who have looked over Brown’s autopsy report concluded that an altercation took place between Wilson, a white officer, and Brown, a black man, before Brown was shot dead. Though some witnesses of the shooting have said Brown was shot with his hands up or walking away, the experts interviewed by the Dispatch said that the autopsy report did not support those accounts. They said it appeared that Brown had confronted Wilson and reached for the officer’s gun. The Dispatch noted that the experts interviewed were not involved with the official investigation into the shooting, which provoked racial unrest in the St. Louis, Mo., area and across the nation.

A grand jury is currently deliberating on whether to indict Wilson, who says he acted in self-defense. Lemon said that it’s possible leaks were coming out of the grand jury as a way to prepare protesters in the St. Louis area for a non indictment. http://www.mediaite.com/tv/don-lemon-in ... to-happen/
Author:  Wroughead [ Thu Oct 23, 2014 7:14 pm ]
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I used to pay for having satellite tv, but I found most of it rubbish, so I stopped paying, and now only have digital where some channels are so different from what I was used to, but it's free. The only reason I mention this is because I used to love watching Bill O'Reilly 'opine' and enjoyed his shows, I actually also enjoyed Fox news which we never see now.
Author:  Rumpole [ Thu Oct 23, 2014 8:37 pm ]
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For a long time I had Fox on all day. And I found it, far from perfect, much more "balanced" than anything previous (especially BBC and CNN)
People who criticize Fox always turn out to be people who only have watched clips. Sure Fox has "biased" hosts... all channels do, but that is part of the particular show (and known)... Sean Hannity a good example. If you watch all day the actual NEWS shows both sides. They have panelists from both sides etc. Nowadays I simply don't watch TV, not even Fox.. dont have time LOL
Author:  Rumpole [ Fri Oct 24, 2014 12:55 am ]
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One man’s protests push police to the limit
Posted 10:33 pm, October 23, 2014, by Chris Hayes

ST. LOUIS, MO (KTVI) – Here`s an inside look at one of the most angry protestors, who`s lighting up social media over Ferguson and the deadly police shooting on Shaw. Fox Files investigator Chris Hayes sat down with St. Louisan Bassem Masri.

Warning: Language in this story may offend some readers and viewers.

A crowd chants to officers, “Whose streets? Our streets. Our streets. Our streets.”

It was October 8, the night an off duty officer shot and killed Vonderett Myers Jr. Crowds surround officers who back away.

A man holding a cell phone says, ‘What the f*** you doing here bro, get the f*** out a here with your coward ass boys.’ It was Bassem Masri who said this as he streamed video that was live at the time. Masri yelled at an officer, ‘Coward straight pig out here bitch! You gotta go. Your life is in danger homie.’

People appear to feed off of his energy. Masri told an officer, ‘What happens when we take your gun?’ That officer then protects his gun. Another officer protecting his gun was answered with screams, ‘He has his hand on his gun!’

Then citizens surrounded him and chanted, ‘Shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot.’

At one point you can hear Masri tell officers, while pointing at each one, ‘I`m praying for your death and you death and your death and your death.’

Bassem Masri sat down with us to answer to his tactics. He said, ‘We need to be talking about how we gonna fix the police, not how do we fix Bassem.’

...more at link
http://fox2now.com/2014/10/23/one-mans- ... the-limit/
Author:  Rumpole [ Fri Oct 24, 2014 2:55 am ]
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Ferguson Streamers - Tequila!

Author:  Rumpole [ Fri Oct 24, 2014 3:17 am ]
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Ferguson Streamers - At The Hop

Author:  Rumpole [ Fri Oct 24, 2014 4:28 am ]
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Ferguson Streamers Can Can

Author:  kingkazpur [ Sat Oct 25, 2014 1:19 am ]
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Racist Senator Jamillah Nasheed accuses citizens calling for her impeachment of "assassinating her character"
Author:  Rumpole [ Sat Oct 25, 2014 4:02 am ]
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#Ferguson "peaceful" protesters attack young white man 10/24/14

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