kingkazpur wrote:
All new levels of DAFT! Now the nuts are complaining that allowing Officer Wilson to testify unfairly prejudiced the grand jury against Michael brown.
Really?
That is taking daft to a new level.
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| Author: | Rumpole [ Wed Sep 17, 2014 8:06 pm ] |
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kingkazpur wrote: All new levels of DAFT! Now the nuts are complaining that allowing Officer Wilson to testify unfairly prejudiced the grand jury against Michael brown. Really? That is taking daft to a new level.
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| Author: | Rumpole [ Wed Sep 17, 2014 8:12 pm ] |
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I honestly can not see any chance of this being other than justified shooting? Am I missing something? Even the biased "witnesses" say MB laid hands on (assaulted) a cop. Being shot is likely. Even Crump/Baden say shots from front. Likely MB advancing on cop. I know they have to have a bit of an inquiry when there is a (fatal) shooting by a cop. I even know that for this case politically they need to go beyond that and do a full investigation. I can even tollerate an FBI investigation too. But I dont see there is much doubt about what happened? |
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| Author: | Carmelita [ Wed Sep 17, 2014 8:20 pm ] |
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There doesn't seem to be much doubt that this was a justified police officer shooting to defend himself. Four hours before the GJ. I think this is a case of community instigators and useful idiots enflaming a community. |
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| Author: | Rumpole [ Wed Sep 17, 2014 8:26 pm ] |
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From CTH.... Quote: Gary says: September 17, 2014 at 7:52 pm I believe that Crenshaw and Mitchell were never considered by investigators to be witnesses to the shooting. I believe they referenced the wrong SUV while giving statments to the police (and this led investigators to confirm the distance as 35 feet from the SUV to the shooting – to weed out other false witnesses). I do find it odd that they weren’t subpoenaed though. I thought they would be brought in front of the GJ just to satisfy the protestors and show them that everything was being presented and that there is no fix going on. Quote: sundance says:
September 17, 2014 at 8:02 pm ^^ THIS X A MILLION ^^ I can absolutely confirm the distance was intentionally misstated as a false flag to screen out actual witnesses. Direct sources have shared this was exactly used for this filtering affect.  |
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| Author: | Rumpole [ Wed Sep 17, 2014 9:13 pm ] |
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kingkazpur wrote: All new levels of DAFT! Now the nuts are complaining that allowing Officer Wilson to testify unfairly prejudiced the grand jury against Michael brown. Do you have link to example of that? |
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| Author: | Rumpole [ Wed Sep 17, 2014 9:49 pm ] |
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From CTH... Ferguson Protesters Pledge Violence If Officer Darren Wilson Is Not Indicted… Posted on September 17, 2014 by sundance CLAYTON (KMOV.com) – A protester said violence will occur if charges are not filed against Officer Darren Wilson in connection with the shooting of Michael Brown, Jr. The man made the comments during a St. Louis County Council meeting Tuesday. The man asked Councilman Steve Stenger, who is running for St. Louis County Executive, where he was when tear gas was used on protesters. He then asked the entire council where it was when Brown was shot before saying violence would return if Wilson is not indicted. ....more at link http://theconservativetreehouse.com/201 ... -indicted/ |
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| Author: | Rumpole [ Wed Sep 17, 2014 11:42 pm ] |
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Ferguson Mayor Resists Calls to Resign; Opens Up About Mistakes September 15, 2014 6:46 PM ST. LOUIS (KMOX) – Should he stay or should he go? Ferguson Mayor James Knowles is resisting calls from protestors for him to resign. “I think me stepping down – I’m not sure that it achieves some of the goals [from] the people that I am hearing out there, other than the goal of just getting rid of me,” Knowles said. “If I step down today, I’ll be replaced by another white man who’s 30 years my senior.” Looking back on the shooting of Michael Brown and the rioting that followed five weeks ago, Knowles admits he’s made some mistakes. ...more at link http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2014/09/15/ ... -mistakes/ |
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| Author: | kingkazpur [ Thu Sep 18, 2014 1:42 am ] |
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Post by one of the MB cult morons complaining that Wilson testifying prejudiced the Grand Jury ----->>>>> Hunting Horn · Top Commenter It is preferential treatment that Officer Wilson is testifying and definitely preferential if he is allowed to wear his uniform. |
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| Author: | Rumpole [ Thu Sep 18, 2014 2:47 am ] |
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Thanks. What can I say....
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| Author: | jayjerome [ Thu Sep 18, 2014 2:57 pm ] |
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The blacks disrupted the Ferguson City Council meeting, made physical threats of violence, and curses against members of the city council, while security cops did nothing to restore order.  From St. Louis Post Dispatch: http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/fury ... 0339f.html "The fury of Ferguson descended on the seat of St. Louis County with a vengeance Tuesday night with demonstrators unleashing a torrent of chants, invective and threats at a County Council that listened for two hours in stunned silence Council Chairwoman Hazel Erby twice threatened to end the meeting prematurely if the demonstrators — who interrupted speakers, including eight residents appealing to the council on zoning and other matters — didn’t cease. The audience jeered a woman who voiced support for the police. She received a police escort from the building after the meeting. Speakers also threatened to shut down St. Louis Cardinals and Rams games this Sunday, disrupt weekend grocery shopping trips throughout the area and mount massive demonstrations if the Cardinals reach the World Series." If you read the comments you'll see the majority of responders (mostly white) are fed up with the black antics in their home city. It will be interesting to see if they reject the mostly acquiescent stoicism of Democrats to this assault against common decency in the uypcoming elections there. |
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| Author: | Rumpole [ Thu Sep 18, 2014 6:23 pm ] |
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Darren Wilson testifies in front of grand jury By St. Louis Post-Dispatch (MO) September 18, 2014 6:48 am ST. LOUIS -- Ferguson police Officer Darren Wilson testified for almost four hours Tuesday in front of a St. Louis County grand jury investigating the Aug. 9 shooting of Michael Brown, a source with knowledge of the investigation said Wednesday. Wilson was not obligated to testify, and has also spoken with St. Louis County investigators twice and federal investigators once, the source said. The source said that Wilson had been "cooperative." Ed Magee, a spokesman for St. Louis County Prosecuting Attorney Robert P. McCulloch's office, said Wednesday that he would not comment on which witnesses have testified. [.....] McCulloch isn't presenting the case to the grand jury himself. That is the job of two assistant prosecutors, Kathi Alizadeh and Sheila Whirley. Alizadeh, who is white, is the homicide prosecutor on duty and has 27 years' experience. Whirley, who is black, has the grand jury assignment and has 18 years' experience. Clayton defense lawyer John Rogers, who is not involved in the Brown case, has represented thousands of people in his 20 years in practice and said a defendant has no constitutional right to testify before a grand jury. He said , "It's unusual but not unheard of for a prosecutor to extend an invitation" for a defendant to testify. He said he has had clients who were invited to testify but he rarely allowed it. The defense lawyer isn't allowed in the room, but the defendant can take a break at any time and walk into the hallway to consult with his lawyer. Asked why a defense lawyer wouldn't want the defendant to testify before a grand jury, Rogers replied, "You don't always want to preview what your defense would be at such an early stage. A prosecutor's presentation to the grand jury has a huge impact on the decision of the grand jury, so I would have to be very convinced that the prosecutor's intentions were not to indict before I would agreeable to avail my client to this process." Cohen said prosecutors have great influence over grand juries by presenting the evidence, calling the witnesses and instructing the jurors on the applicable law. The prosecutor can decide not to instruct the grand jury on a charge of murder, for instance, and instead only instruct the jury on criminal negligence, Cohen said. Or, Cohen added, the prosecutor could instruct the grand jury on several charges, including manslaughter. ...more at link http://www.gopusa.com/news/2014/09/18/d ... rand-jury/ |
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| Author: | Rumpole [ Thu Sep 18, 2014 6:29 pm ] |
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Quote: McCulloch isn't presenting the case to the grand jury himself. That is the job of two assistant prosecutors, Kathi Alizadeh and Sheila Whirley. Alizadeh, who is white, is the homicide prosecutor on duty and has 27 years' experience. Whirley, who is black, has the grand jury assignment and has 18 years' experience. Clayton defense lawyer John Rogers, who is not involved in the Brown case, has represented thousands of people in his 20 years in practice and said a defendant has no constitutional right to testify before a grand jury. He said , "It's unusual but not unheard of for a prosecutor to extend an invitation" for a defendant to testify. I wonder how much pressure (coercion) there is on the two assistant prosecutors. 
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| Author: | Rumpole [ Fri Sep 19, 2014 5:11 am ] |
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From CTH..... PART I – Debunking The Myths, Talking-Points and Agenda Driven Nonsense Around The Mike Brown Shooting… Posted on September 19, 2014 by sundance The Ferguson and Saint Louis County Police Departments were smart right from the start. Much of what they did, and did not do, in relationship to investigating the Mike Brown shooting, specifically as it regards releasing information to the media, was intentional. By holding specific factual evidence close to the vest they obviously frustrated the media. However, in doing so they also insured the integrity of witness evaluation. As a specifically intended outcome their decisions also meant that false witnesses could easily be identified. As we previously shared the crime scene itself created a witness grid of sorts. Canfield Drive, the street location of the shooting itself, runs essentially East and West. The witnesses most of the public are familiar with are from locations North of Canfield. We previously explained how this took place HERE. The more publically known witnesses: Tiffany Mitchell, Piaget Crenshaw, Dorian Johnson (Big Mike co-hort) all had early legal representation brought upon by their relationship to community leaders, and each other, toward selling a specific storyline to the media; we can call this script the “Hands Up” narrative. In turn each attorney can factually be connected to the larger Ferguson grievance group who were aiming to support Brown family attorney’s Daryl Parks and Benjamin Crump. The only non-lawyered witnesses, who were coincidentally also located North of Canfield, were Michael Brady and a guy who live-tweeted the post-shooting events under the auspices of “Pharaoh“. ....more at link http://theconservativetreehouse.com/201 ... -shooting/ |
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| Author: | LondoJowo [ Fri Sep 19, 2014 9:50 am ] |
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If you want to read some real daft, read this link. https://storify.com/VeryWhiteGuy/shaunk ... distance-f He's claiming Wilson shot Brown at 100 feet. If Wilson landed 6 out of 10 shots at 100 feet, he's a true pistol sharp shooter. |
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| Author: | mung [ Fri Sep 19, 2014 11:01 am ] |
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No it is even better, because he claims that Wilson fired the first volley of 6 shots while Brown was running and missed all 6. So he made 6 out of 4 shots at 100 feet. Wilson is magic. |
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| Author: | jayjerome [ Fri Sep 19, 2014 11:56 am ] |
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"So he made 6 out of 4 shots at 100 feet." While moving backwards, away from Brown, as Dorian Johnson testified in his media interview... |
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| Author: | jayjerome [ Fri Sep 19, 2014 12:45 pm ] |
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Wondering -- if during his 4 hour testimony before the grand jury, the subject of the stolen cigars came up? Possible scenario: Did Wilson see them in Browns hand as he was pulling away from Brown and Dorian Johnson after warning them to get onto the sidewalk? Again, according to DJs interview, Wilson suddenly put his car in reverse to pull back up alongside them. It was reported (unconfirmed) that the Ferguson Police had moments before broadcast a radio alert about the robbery, which Wilson would have heard in his police car. Did Wilson put two and two together, and draw his gun then, and was that when Brown tried to grab it through the patrol car window, and punch Wilson in the process? Was that when Wilson fired the first shot at him -- through the window? Under those circumstances it would seem Wilson has a right under law to chase and shoot at a fleeing Brown. Also wondering if Wilson testified after Brown stopped running and turned -- hands in the air or not -- he warned Brown to stop advancing toward him. Would any of the witnesses have been close enough to dispute that? And when Brown continued to advance despite the warning, Wilson believed his life was in danger, and shot to protect himself. Just speculation.... |
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| Author: | Rumpole [ Fri Sep 19, 2014 2:50 pm ] |
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FWIW. Piecing together hints rather than confirmed facts. I think there was a tussle with DW in and just outside the car, and a shot was fired maybe MB was hit a glancing hand or arm wound and bullet went on to lodge above a window in building on right. (side of road closest to rear of SUV). The 10 shots heard on audio were in addition to that. They were AFTER MB turned to face DW who was in pursuit (100ft or so from SUV). I am not sure if Cops fire warning shots? There were 6 shots then pause.. so I think any "warning shot(s)" was/were in that group.. some were hits to MB arm. I have never had a problem with "hands up" it may be true or not raising hands means NOTHING if you are still still verbally aggressive and advancing. I think the first 6 shots included some misses.. then pause and last 4 more likely to be hits as MB still coming (charging). Last two shots heard were hits to MB's head is my guess. |
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| Author: | Rumpole [ Fri Sep 19, 2014 3:22 pm ] |
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At CTH..... Froggie has more on what Kingkazpur raised about dopes Quote: froggielegs says: September 19, 2014 at 9:47 am Lisa Bloom is an idiot. She was on MSNBC saying that Officer Wilson, should not have been allowed to talk to the GJ. That defendants don’t have a right to speak to them… Where do these TV attorney’s get their law licenses? |
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| Author: | seeing_eye [ Sat Sep 20, 2014 12:12 am ] |
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I agree with Froggie. Lisa Bloom is an idiot. Not content to pile so much damage onto Zimmerman, she's obviously compelled to do the same to Officer Wilson. |
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