As big as he was, I don't believe he could get his arms that high. I think IF his hands were up, his arms would be bent and that would not allow for the wound near the elbow area cause his beefy arms would be covering it. I think one arm wound near shoulder and chest happened in the car and the others happened as he was running away from the cop. Remember some witnesses did say that shots were fired while he was running away but they missed. Or so they think they did.

What's interesting though is to listen to Dorian's interview with Al Sharpton again. Especially when he says he doesn't know why the cop went back to them because they weren't doing anything illegal. It's interesting to watch that now after seeing the robbery video.

Hi Froggie.

And... there was talk of "taunting the cop"... I imagine that could involve some sort of hand gesture/gang sign.. so arms up to that extent... more out in front than "Hands up" gesture.

Fun to see the facts come out gradually, but of course NONE of this will change the Mob notions ever. They are convinced that Brown surrendered and put Hands up (as you see in old cowboy movies) and the bad cop shot him "in cold blood" That is the way it will always be for the Mob. Before, during. and after a trial (if there is one)

Something like.......



Here is the Gentle Giant" himself

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From CTH.....

With “Big Mike” Scheme Team Assembled – We’ll Show You The Similarities of Ferguson, Missouri 2014 and Sanford, Florida 2012…
Posted on August 18, 2014 by sundance

The team that is assembled to sell the Mike Brown narrative, and seek the wrongful death financial justice, follows a very specific pattern. That’s why as we have tracked their specific constructs we are able to label them “The Scheme Team“. Their pattern is quite predictable.

That pattern includes a networking playbook replete with an index of specific people used toward the end goal of lawsuits. People like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are the obvious ones. However, the lesser known -but always present- include Jamal Bryant (Baltimore AME church) and the current NAACP head.

That’s why yesterday you saw the Mike Brown autopsy leaked to New York Times writer Frances Robles. Ms. Robles was previously working for the Miami Herald during the Trayvon Martin scheme in 2012 and gained the insiders position of favorability for attorneys Daryl Parks and Benjamin Crump. Parks and Crump now represent the family of Michael Brown.

...more at link
http://theconservativetreehouse.com/201 ... rida-2012/

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Well....Gentle Mike has quite a record of assault and using a gun.

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I don't want to get too excited..... I'd like to see more confirmation of that record. It is all same date so I guess one incident but multiple charges resulting?

Just from the way Brown behaved in store robbery, I tend to think he would have been in trouble as a juvenile, and that one adult incident makes sense in that context ... a likely career in adult crime just blossoming.

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Amazing as to how the Brown story is unfolding ... following the play book.

Have you heard any comments by Sharpton in Ferguson...there was a couple of sentences he made on video played this morning on Fox News...UGLY tone!

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I think Sharpton has done some speechefying... but I have not taken particular notice.

He has had a lot to say on his show.... interviewed Dorian Johnson and got the early BS version of events... I saw that

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New article:

County investigation: Michael Brown was shot from the front, had marijuana in his system

By Mark Berman, Emily Wax-Thibodeaux and Wesley Lowery August 18 at 12:34 PM

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post ... m/?hpid=z1

Michael Brown was shot in the head and chest multiple times, according to Mary Case, the St. Louis County medical examiner.

While Case declined to comment further, citing the ongoing investigation into Brown’s death, another person familiar with the county’s investigation told The Washington Post that Brown had between six and eight gunshot wounds and was shot from the front.

In addition, Brown had marijuana in his system when he was shot and killed by a police officer on Aug. 9 in Ferguson, according to this person, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the ongoing investigation.
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Go to the link for the full article.

There were so many aspects of Johnson's early interviews that just don't hold up...


Brown was shot in the back... we now know there were no shots in the back.

Brown was a gentle giant... we now know Johnson had just watched him robbing and roughing up the store clerk/owner.

He could see the pain in Brown's eyes... we now know that was not possible in light of the autopsy findings re the eyes.

Forensic expert Dr. Henry Lee just observed on CNN that the gunshot wound to the hand could possibly be from Brown trying to grab the gun from the officer...

Imagine that arm stretched out reaching for the gun when it fired... with the bullet trajectory lacing in and out starting with the hand and ending up in the chest.

It would explain why there were only three bullets recovered in the body.

Interesting possibilities 'nivico'.

Is this the interview you are referring to:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ug7OdQ3lScU

That’s also why there are no exit wounds on the backs of the arms… the trajectory was ‘laced’ along the length of the arm and then into the chest once (one bullet), not through the arm front to back four times (four bullets).

bullet grazed palm –> perforated forearm –> grazed elbow –> perforated bicep –> penetrated chest

And we know two of the three bullets were recovered at the “X” marks in the chest and the third from the skull.

He was only shot three times.

This also tends to dispel the rumor that he raised that arm in surrender… he couldn’t have.

CNN just gave officer's account (via a friend's statement) that Brown was grabbing the gun when it went off. Completely jibes with the trajectory analysis.

SheStone... yeah that's the one

I didn't catch the full interview, I believe it was on CNN, earlier with Dr. Jan Garavaglia and two other people (one of them was Mark O'Mara) but in it one of the things Dr. G was saying was about that Baden would have likely gotten the body after it had been washed. From what I caught of the conversation this seemed to have to do with determining the lack of gun residue on the body. I don't know if it was related to anything else as well. I haven't found a video of that interview yet.

...hopefully we aren't gonna have another GZ or Wafer type incompetence issue where exculpatory evidence was lost because of the investigators' and MEs' complacency about doing the job by the book.

I don't think that is what Dr. G meant. It was something about that they will have to go by the original autopsy for some information, like the GSR, because by the time they were going to do the second autopsy the body would likely have already been washed with the first autopsy completed. The way she was presenting it that would seem to be by the book. I imagine it is standard practice unless they are specifically asked not to do that. I know from her show that they do some of the wiping and washing of the body in the autopsy to collect evidence and to get clear views and images of injuries, etc.

I guess I lost my post because I don't read that another has been added to thread. Anyway wondering if any more witnesses will be uncovered other than what the fellow officer said and the person in the background audio discovered by someone at CTH about bum rushing the officer who shot him.

More thought on this, the linear trajectory of the bullet fired as Brown grabbed the gun is:

bullet enters the arm through palm --> exit wound on forearm --> enters the arm again through midarm/elbow region --> exit wound on bicep --> final entrance wound on chest